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WWASPS Success Rate 97.4%
Anonymous:
Judy - First, I'm not Betsy - I attended all the seminars, staffed all the seminars and unless requiring parents to write a "satisfaction" letter has started in the past couple of weeks, you have just confirmed you have not attended.
As far as the vow of secrecy, it's not a secret seminar voodooing everyone into submission to say whatever they tell you say. Get a grip!
The purpose of not sharing the processes with those that have not attended is it would spoil it for them, plain and simple. The seminars are public and many, many people that don't have a kid in a wwasps school program attend for their own personal growth. It's not about the program and if you ever attended you would know that. Maybe it's time????
I personally received a phone call from someone around 6 months after graduation and then around 2 years later. From what I remember, the first was satisfaction, the second was success and included talking with my daughter. They could have been from wwasps, but it seemed like they were from an outside company. I don't know what the success rate is for graduates, but from all the grads I know, it's probably pretty high. The numbers aren't important to me personally.
But, hey, don't take my word for it. I only have about 4 years of experience.
By the way, I won't post my e-mail address here, for obvious reasons. Nothing I say will change your minds, and that's okay. I clicked on the link to this site when I was looking for something related. I find myself wanting to defend my experience...but won't go there.
Darlene
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-08-14 13:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Judy - First, I'm not Betsy -
Darlene - You may want to read my post again. You seem to be attributing comments to me that were not made by me. I said nothing to or about Betsy, nor did I mention any secret seminar voodoo.
I attended all the seminars, staffed all the seminars and unless requiring parents to write a "satisfaction" letter has started in the past couple of weeks, you have just confirmed you have not attended.
I attended Discovery in Concord, California in July of 2000, Bill was facilitator; Focus also in Concord in September of 2000, Lou was facilitator; Visions in San Diego November-December 2000, and as you know Barbara was the facilitator since she is the only one who facilitates Visions. I also staffed Discovery with Bill and Focus with Joyce in the Spring of 2001. I attended Parent Weekend at TB in July 2001 with Jan facilitating. In my Discovery seminar we were all given sheets of stationary to write letters of appreciation and were instructed to give them to the staffers and they would be sent collectively to the programs. I also handed out stationary at the Discovery seminar that I staffed for the same purpose and heard the same instructions. I still have my notes from the Focus I staffed and the following is on one of my notecards "collect letters first, check child's name & facility name".
Tell me Darlene, how has denying truth worked for you in the past? How is it a reflection in your life? What is the pay off for you? How does this show up in your life? What results have you created here by calling me a liar? My coaching to you is to take a BIG step left and trust others, Darlene.
As far as the vow of secrecy, it's not a secret seminar voodooing everyone into submission to say whatever they tell you say. Get a grip!
The purpose of not sharing the processes with those that have not attended is it would spoil it for them, plain and simple. The seminars are public and many, many people that don't have a kid in a wwasps school program attend for their own personal growth. It's not about the program and if you ever attended you would know that. Maybe it's time????
I personally received a phone call from someone around 6 months after graduation and then around 2 years later. From what I remember, the first was satisfaction, the second was success and included talking with my daughter. They could have been from wwasps, but it seemed like they were from an outside company. I don't know what the success rate is for graduates, but from all the grads I know, it's probably pretty high. The numbers aren't important to me personally.
But, hey, don't take my word for it. I only have about 4 years of experience.
By the way, I won't post my e-mail address here, for obvious reasons. Nothing I say will change your minds, and that's okay. I clicked on the link to this site when I was looking for something related. I find myself wanting to defend my experience...but won't go there.
Darlene
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Anonymous:
Forgot to sign my name to previous comments.
Judy
Anonymous:
He said/ she said??
Did it ever occur to either one of you that you're both telling the truth?
Betsy
Anonymous:
:???: Guess I'll read some of the postings, but looks like I'm being credited with some posts I didn't make :???:
In answer to your inquiry about the satisfaction rate - what does that have to do with me? I don't think unless I'm a parent, graduate, employee or PR that information would be available to me.
Betsy
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