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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "pg54counselor" ---i'm sorry to hear that you feel that way. I'm also sorry that i cannot message you or reveal my real identity to anyone. i signed a nondisclosure agreement and technically it's illegal for me to even be posting anything on this site. although considering this, my posts may have seemed reckless, i do choose what i reveal and dont reveal carefully. For that exact reason you do not know who i am....I never told anyone at HLA anything about my private life and therefore most of the facts mentioned before cannot be traced back to my true identity. I know who you are, K.R, because one of your friends, an ex-student, who i know through family, revealed to me the identity of a number of people who post here.  

I was a little "higher up" than denny or darlene. I only sat in your reals twice, and only for around half an hour each time. If you can remember, HLA brought in "specialists" or "prospective counselors" or "prospective employees" into reals? well i was one of those. I wasnt around the kids very often, but i did know them quite well, including you, but only through files. I spent countless hours sitting in one of the back offices of the counselor building reading through student files, reviewing various incident reports, dorm tapes, phone calls, and whatnot. They hired me as a counselor but when they couldn't get me a peer group they put my expertise into use to clean the place up, ethically that is, but when i held the staff accountable i was admonished.  

that marks the end of my time posting at fornits. Moving on now.....nothing against you guys, but i have better things to do and i dont feel like getting a call from quirk&quack.
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Ah, but "Quirk and Quirk" have been gone for two years...  It is Thornton Morris now.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "lacey'smom" ---pg54-in time, if u were on "staff" during pg54-all will come out, as I kept EVERY shred of docs from intake to out take, from all the flaming money grubbing "health-care" providers, that systematically raped this family and I am turning them all over to Lacey and she would figure out who you are(were you the one who forbid me to call my own child, as you determined, I was inappropriate??)...every stinking piece of paper ....
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sorry i said i'm gone but i just have to say something.....
first of all....i can tell your drunk, and upset. i'm sorry for upsetting you. your post is somewhat difficult to decipher, it's fairly incoherent.

I was actually against the practice of restricting phone calls, period. i took this issue, your case specifically was one of many that i mentioned, directly to Len my first week there and nearly got fired after a heated debate that involved quite a bit of yelling...from me. Yes, i YELLED at LEN BUCCELATO my first week working at HLA. I was one of the few people who worked there that stood up to all the harmful and unethical practices, and i quit because my grievances were constantly swept under the carpet and ignored.
As for blaming you for your daughter's troubled mind...are you seriously going to tell me with absolute honesty (and look me straight in the eye, if you could) and deny any and all responsibility for how your kids turned out? i know it's horrible going through what you went through, and i feel sorry for you, and there were most definitely factors outside of your control, but that doesn't change the fact that you are responsible in some way, as was her father (even more so....maybe). I know it's hard to hear that, but you have to hear it.

please, before dumping your troubles on other people make a thorough self-examination. what sets you apart from a "normal" "functional" family? what choices did you make in your past that led you to this juncture? what led you to the divorce, everything?

dont take this personally or get more upset about it. I know it's hard to hear but i only have good intentions. I really dont feel like tracking down lacey's phone # now and getting her to suicide watch YOU.

and good luck to lacey figuring out who i am. my name was never on any correspondence, i was paid off the books (as were many other employees), all of my notes burned down with the academic building, and on a recent occasion that i called len to check on the status of the school, he didnt even remember who i was. he thought i was a student.

Anonymous:
Thank you for this.  "i was paid off the books (as were many other employees), " This will be attached to package that has already gone to the IRS...  Is your IP address blocked from Ginger?  Do hope you a woofing.

Inculcated:
Alright 54, you’ve crossed the line from simply self-righteous to showing yourself to be an out and out sanctimonious bitch.

Thanks for illustrating credentials and compassion are not necessarily found by all who pursue positions in the “helping professions”, and that many (like you) are simply judgmental hypocrites.

You promised you were leaving and I for one would be pleased if you fulfilled it.

Oh, and I do hope if you are who you've said you are (beyond what you've shown yourself to be), that Lacey will let us know.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "lacey'smom" ---pg54-in time, if u were on "staff" during pg54-all will come out, as I kept EVERY shred of docs from intake to out take, from all the flaming money grubbing "health-care" providers, that systematically raped this family and I am turning them all over to Lacey and she would figure out who you are(were you the one who forbid me to call my own child, as you determined, I was inappropriate??)...every stinking piece of paper - since you know her last name, some day, to amuse yourself - log on to the 30 years+ of legal docs -using her last name, in the County and State she was from, since you know so much and avail  yourself of multi-state government/healthcare manipulation of a family that included Judges, Both Adolescent and Adult Law Firms, Pysychiatric Hospitals, TBS, Wilderness Programs, Public School Systems, Private Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Theurapists and on and on...I don't care your personal or professional experience, you had NO idea what our family dealt with and my only ability to protect my daughter from garbage kids should never know about an absent parent, was to legally take the path I took.With all the postings here and I do care that those of you with the experitse and will contribute to change the available solutions for parents like myself, as you weild the power of your pen, try to remember, some of us coming to this horrible choice, had already sufferred the loss of a previous child to exactly the same set of circumstances.Lacey had a brother, who did not get put in any kind of treatment.  He had very similar challenges and I read with humor the alternatives to treatment given here and can tell you, I TRIED THAT WITH HIM!  It didn't work. As his chosen "Mother", I had the "honor?" of letting that first handful of dirt fall from my hand onto his coffin, dead at 14 years old!!.Lacey has siblings that did not take the same path and you might, as pg54 referred to her offspring, call them "successful".  Same parents, same environment, who can tell why some kids go one way and others, another? You want to help the next parent sitting suicide watch on their kid tonight? not knowing if they will kill themselves or you, then stop all the infighting and join forces and truly go out with one voice and demand that the "powers that be" listen to you,  I do not think you have the answers, but YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE RIGHT QUESTIONS....
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Hidden Lake forbade you to call Lacey? Why not just rescue her from a "school" that places that sort of abusive controls on its detainees? pg54, seems to have you pegged, if you didn't and Lacey was not court ordered.

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