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Anonymous:
It's not up to the counselors to determine admission, it was not our responsibility. I am not one of the two counselors in lacey's group, I only sat in on her peer group for a few sessions, but I have spoken to her mother on a few occasions and I know well enough about her family situation to make a judgement. we were just doing our jobs, which was to deal with the kids that were already there. telling the parent to take the kid back would have resulted in a huge fiasco, and also half the time the kids were not that much worse off at HLA compared to their home lives. I quit my job there a few months in as i had disagreements regarding your exact concerns.
Troll Control:
Well bully for you. I did the same almost 15 years ago.
In my experience, the vast majority of problems were indeed caused by the parents and not the kids. It sounds like that held true for the duration.
Were you a "masters level" counselor? What is your professional judgment on the efficacy of HLA's "treatment" model?
What types of abuse did you witness? Kid-on-kid? Staff-on-kid? Can you tell us a bit about the relative safety of the campus considering the dearth of staff and the genuinely dangerous kids enrolled there?
Thanks!
Anonymous:
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--- Quote --- the only thing ever wrong with her were her problems stemming from a total lack of self esteem which was a direct result of her upbringing.
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Who made this diagnosis?
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so medical diagnoses trump all experience? Anyone who knows her can make that observation. it's clear as daylight.
part of the reason i left HLA was because Len (buccelato) was insistant on counselors making diagnoses which result in greater parent satisfaction and therefore cash flow, not what the kid actually needs/has. whatever you think you know about your daughter based on what members of the HLA staff told you is absolutely dead wrong. They told you what you wanted to hear, not what you had to hear, and that's one of the core problems behind the social attitudes that result in a child being placed in a school like HLA.
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--- Quote --- proper parenting prevents all the problems.
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Please cite your source. I would like to see the study
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No need for sources or studies. There is 10,000 years of human experience and anecdotal evidence which surpasses the validity of any "scientific" study that can be conjured up.
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--- Quote --- but, of course, in our suburban society full of dual working parents, babysitters, spoiled kids, high divorce rates, deeeeeruuuugssss, step-parents and skewed family values, i know it's quite difficult to be a good parent. NOT. you had a choice regrading your family's lifestyle, and you chose wrong. now your daughter has to live with the damage your mistakes have inflicted.
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The kid is the one that screwed up. If the child had stayed in school and worked on being a member of the family then she/he could avoid any placement.
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maybe if you made that child feel like a member of the family....the family could have avoided placement.
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--- Quote --- what i propose as a solution is an enlightenment of this society's attitudes towards parents and delinquents - parents should be held accountable. if a kid messes up like your daughter, YOU go into a therapeutic "camp" with her where they correct your mistakes in both you and her.
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Why make the rest of the family suffer with loss of income. All the other siblings are doing fine, going to school etc. why abandon them for the one kid who keeps screwing up?
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So what your saying is money is the most important thing in life, and everything else comes second? You already suffered a loss of income from placing your child in HLA's custody. and really, is income really that much higher a priority compared to your child's and family's mental health? hmmmm. Knowing you i'm truly not surprised. many parents of HLA students have the same attitude: "heres some money, now get them out of my hair and fix them while i go about my business".
read what i said regarding your choice of lifestyle and attitude.
Furthermore, siblings are never treated equally and therefore do not come out equally. read the bible, maybe youll learn something... (cain+abel). do you really think genetics predispose someone to being sent away? NO! it's the way they are raised, and you fucked up royally in that department. Get your priorities straight.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---Wait a minute... Is TheWho contradicting an HLA "counselor"? Say it isn't so. TheWho spends all day every day here defending HLA and the first time a "counselor" posts, TheWho flips on him/her?
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I guess thewho was telling the truth after all, he isnt here to defend HLA he is here to bring out the truth and add balance.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Well bully for you. I did the same almost 15 years ago.
In my experience, the vast majority of problems were indeed caused by the parents and not the kids. It sounds like that held true for the duration.
Were you a "masters level" counselor? What is your professional judgment on the efficacy of HLA's "treatment" model?
What types of abuse did you witness? Kid-on-kid? Staff-on-kid? Can you tell us a bit about the relative safety of the campus considering the dearth of staff and the genuinely dangerous kids enrolled there?
Thanks!
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I was a master's level counselor. HLA is completely ineffective, abusive, and predisposes the kids towards negative attitudes, habits and lifestyles. In Theory, the place seems very attractive and effective. The execution of those theories/practices is completely off kilter. The school is run by socially conservative money-loving zealots who do not have the slightest clue what they are doing despite their good intentions. With the exception of a handful of bad "therapeutic" practices such as disclosures, the theraputic aspect of the program should theoretically be effective. the problem is everything else - power and money hungry staff, excessive and undeserved consequencing, the fall-out system, strip searches, excessive supervision and paranoia regarding safety concerning the "agreements", admissions, everything.
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