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Lacey:
Who, you're arguing about everything under the sun, once again skirting the original issue. You've now argued with a bunch of guests, ask Bruce to link his posts, and called me a troll for recounting my experience at Hidden Lake. But were all still waiting on the answer to the original question from like six pages ago. Care to take a stab?

TheWho:

--- Quote from: "Lacey" ---Who, you're arguing about everything under the sun, once again skirting the original issue.
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I have answered all the questions that you asked, I believe.  But I will go back and look.

 
--- Quote ---You've now argued with a bunch of guests,
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I typically do that.  Not everyone has a log in, including myself.



--- Quote --- ask Bruce to link his posts,
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I did and he is still running from that.  I just keep reminding him.

 
--- Quote ---and called me a troll for recounting my experience at Hidden Lake.
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That I dont recall and doubt I called you a troll for that.  But I have been called a troll for talking about my daughters' and my experiences also.  Its one of the risks of posting here on fornits.

 
--- Quote ---But were all still waiting on the answer to the original question from like six pages ago. Care to take a stab?
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I will go back and see if there are any open questions which I didnt address but I am sure I answered them all.

Lacey:

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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---You're being trolled, Lacey. Whatever words you were going to waste on it, send something to the ORS instead, or possibly an organization in Georgia that doesn't give a fuck about Len Buccellato's supposed clout.
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Actually Lacey was the one trolling.  Switching the subject, misquoting, the use of ad hominems, dismissing peoples thoughts and point of view, putting words in peoples mouths, twisting words to meet her Personal agenda.  To name a few.  Classic troll behavior.
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Let me refresh your memory.

TheWho:
Lacy:  Some of these seemed sarcastic to me so I didn’t rely.  But here are the ones I believe I passed over:


--- Quote ---So we should rape/abuse children so that they'd be prepared for those very events?
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No

--- Quote ---Is that the argument that you're trying to make?
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No

--- Quote --- That because I was abused at Hidden Lake that it would help prepare me for future abuse?
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No

--- Quote --- Is that truly the precident that you'd like to be setting?
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I dont think that abuse can make anyone stronger, is damaging and illegal.  What I believe my point was is that the high structure of a program allows the kids to feel safe and gives them time to focus on themselves and find out who they are... what is important and what is unimportant in their life.  They can reflect on the events that lead them there and give them time to deal with them.  The program takes away their idle time and replaces it with more construct use of their time, gets them back to school and back to the books etc.  All of these things leads to a stronger, more mature and more self confident individual post program.

TheWho:

--- Quote ---Actually Lacey was the one trolling. Switching the subject, misquoting, the use of ad hominems, dismissing peoples thoughts and point of view, putting words in peoples mouths, twisting words to meet her Personal agenda. To name a few. Classic troll behavior.
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Ah yes, I remember.  You were trolling me.  Ha,Ha,Ha,   Calling my daughter imaginary, saying I thought abuse helped people.. I dont remember the details but you were using the sharp stick.

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