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Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: "John Reuben" --- So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.
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Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.
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It's the same John Rueben that won't address this ^

TheWho:

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--- Quote from: "John Reuben" --- So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.
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Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.
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It is funny how everyone misreads the same quote over and over again.  I was waiting for someone to correct it… but anyway.   I have no idea if HLA is set up to help kids who were raped.  I don’t know what their model is.  What I do know is that programs help kids to be better prepared for what life throws at them  “Post Program”.  I have seen kids face similar problems and the ones who had been in a program tend to handle the problems much better.

Inculcated:

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--- Quote from: "John Reuben" --- So Lacey, I think it is awful that that had to happen to you.  I do not condone that treatment.  I dont think all schools would do the same thing and I actually know they would not.  I dont condone harassment. I do believethat if the rape occured post program you would be in a stronger position to deal with it then you were before hand.  
But you cannot honestly believe that spreading or allowing the spread of misinformation is going to have any long term lasting effect against these places.  They need to be exposed for what they are and back it all up with facts and data.  If you try to fool people with lies then the whole site loses its credibility.
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Okay thewho or John.  How do you explain this post?  You failed to answer how going to HLA helped Lacey deal with her rape.
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Your inadequate “explanation” needs some work.

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---  I have seen kids face similar problems and the ones who had been in a program tend to handle the problems much better.
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Like being put through another program?

TheWho:

--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---Like being put through another program?
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Didnt mean to leave out the kids who have been in more than one..... Geesh.. you guys are tough.  Rephrase:

 I have seen kids face similar problems and the ones who had been in programs tend to handle the problems much better

Inculcated:
I don’t care who you are you miserable troll. Your claims about your agenda here don’t wash with me.
You’re an ass.
You don’t care about presenting balance in a discussion.
You have spent years embroiled in an ongoing one sided semantics game.
 You don’t care what it was like for someone who was in one or more of these very harmful programs.
You can’t be made to even consider the possible effect of your dismissive missives on anyone who was in one (or even more) of these programs who may actually have experienced additional trauma later on.
You’re an inconsiderate sub-par pseudo intellectual agent provocateur who isn’t even capable of seeing how very poorly you serve your professed purpose of being a program proponent.
If you were capable of any of these insights you would be aware of how your reductive, dismissive, insensitive and yeah, (even to your claimed objective) incompetence is exactly like that of the buffoons with sets of shiny keys on rings that run these places are.
You whoever the hell you are…will not prevail in this misguided endeavor of yours to belittle the firsthand accounts of those who experienced and witnessed crimes committed against children in these programs.

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