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Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Geez Louise! Somehow, I just can't wrap my brain around Michael Carter saying this about his daughter, especially given his predilection for advertising his identity on the internet and disdain for "cowardly anonymous" guest posters. Plus, he has posted his avowed desire to stay out of this thread out of deference to Katie (given that this thread is her story).
Yet this person "guest2" seems to have a certain unmistakable "parental" take on this particular situation. Hmmm. This really leaves very few possible candidates... Gee, who could it be?
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I'm sorry you think that. This is not Mr. Carter, nor do I know of him. I'm just responding as a parent would who has grown up being taught of right and wrong and yes a little healthy fear of my folks. And respect for others views. I don't want to sign my name as I don't want to get into a pissing match with those of you who think you need to spew venom at someone who doesn't think the way you do.
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Femanon (and everyone), I would caution against trying to create good guys and bad guys here. The fathers anger at seeing his daughter harmed was a natural response and he felt powerless to fix it because the person hurting his daughter was his daughter. There are also many layers that need to be considered inwhich we don’t know about. Adults don’t always just fall in love with someone elses children and then decide to marry the parent hoping someday they will love them too and be loved the same in return. Most of the time it works the other way around, the adults fall in love with each other first and then hopfully learn to love the others children. A preteen or teen having their biological mother out of the picture is hard enough but when you add a replacement it takes on a whole new set of dynamics and problems. As you read thru the fathers blog you can see that he loves his daughter very much and would never want to see her hurt. This is a family that has been harmed not just one individual. If we have learned anything from reading here on fornits expending your energy on anger, spewing venom and blaming parents, staff and programs in general does not lead to recovery or healing.
The best we can hope for is that Katie can learn to understand what happened to her and her family so that she can define it, make it tangible, hold it in her hand and begin to make sense of it all and not until then can she be able to set it down and move forward.
I think we should encourage Katie to stay open minded and write her story without a predefined antagonist set upon her.
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Wow Neil, I thank you for a well thought out and non-venomous response. I feel like a lot of the angry responses here are from those people without children, that hopefully from their responses will NEVER procreate, and have never had tough choices other than what time to wake in the afternoon so they can sit in their parents basement on their computer and get their jollys by telling people to just kill themselves.
Maybe I've just stooped to their level here by saying that, but as a parent that has had to make tough choices, I get so tired of these people.
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Geez Louise! Somehow, I just can't wrap my brain around Michael Carter saying this about his daughter, especially given his predilection for advertising his identity on the internet and disdain for "cowardly anonymous" guest posters. Plus, he has posted his avowed desire to stay out of this thread out of deference to Katie (given that this thread is her story).
Yet this person "guest2" seems to have a certain unmistakable "parental" take on this particular situation. Hmmm. This really leaves very few possible candidates... Gee, who could it be?
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--- Quote from: "guest2" ---I'm sorry you think that. This is not Mr. Carter, nor do I know of him. I'm just responding as a parent would who has grown up being taught of right and wrong and yes a little healthy fear of my folks. And respect for others views. I don't want to sign my name as I don't want to get into a pissing match with those of you who think you need to spew venom at someone who doesn't think the way you do.
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I have re-quoted the exchange since you saw fit to mis-attribute portions thereof. I most certainly wasn't implying that you were Mr. Carter. :D
I was responding to the the specificity of the following description:
...so they can sit in their parents basement on their computer and get their jollys by telling people to just kill themselves...[/list]
Gee, now... how would you know that? Am I missing something? Did Katie ever describe the computer as being in the basement?
psy:
--- Quote from: "guest2" ---
--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Geez Louise! Somehow, I just can't wrap my brain around Michael Carter saying this about his daughter, especially given his predilection for advertising his identity on the internet and disdain for "cowardly anonymous" guest posters. Plus, he has posted his avowed desire to stay out of this thread out of deference to Katie (given that this thread is her story).
Yet this person "guest2" seems to have a certain unmistakable "parental" take on this particular situation. Hmmm. This really leaves very few possible candidates... Gee, who could it be?
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I'm sorry you think that. This is not Mr. Carter, nor do I know of him. I'm just responding as a parent would who has grown up being taught of right and wrong and yes a little healthy fear of my folks. And respect for others views. I don't want to sign my name as I don't want to get into a pissing match with those of you who think you need to spew venom at someone who doesn't think the way you do.
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look. Anybody can and does post here. Please don't blame the whole forum for the views of a single person's suggestion.
Ps: Katie: this portion of the forum is unmoderated. If you find it too harsh, feel free to continue this topic in the CAN forum which is moderated:
viewforum.php?f=59
TheWho:
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Geez Louise! Somehow, I just can't wrap my brain around Michael Carter saying this about his daughter, especially given his predilection for advertising his identity on the internet and disdain for "cowardly anonymous" guest posters. Plus, he has posted his avowed desire to stay out of this thread out of deference to Katie (given that this thread is her story).
Yet this person "guest2" seems to have a certain unmistakable "parental" take on this particular situation. Hmmm. This really leaves very few possible candidates... Gee, who could it be?
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I'm sorry you think that. This is not Mr. Carter, nor do I know of him. I'm just responding as a parent would who has grown up being taught of right and wrong and yes a little healthy fear of my folks. And respect for others views. I don't want to sign my name as I don't want to get into a pissing match with those of you who think you need to spew venom at someone who doesn't think the way you do.
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Just fixed the quotes. That wasnt me that posted that.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Just fixed the quotes. That wasnt me that posted that.
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Thanks, NeilWho! ;)
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