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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2009, 12:29:09 PM »
JD, pick up that phone and call your son that you haven't killed yet.
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2009, 01:23:53 PM »
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JD, pick up that phone and call your son that you haven't killed yet.

This has been one of the better few days of posting I have had in awhile.  I have been able to get Ajax13 to start spending time with his son... you will note Ajax13 sat with his son yesterday while he was doing his homework.  There hasnt been any indication that Ajax13 was watching porn at the time.  Then we notice that this new found fatherly instinct has being getting Ajax13 to start spreading it around.  He is encouraging JD to call his son and spend time with him.  It contagious isnt it Ajax13?  JD if you are listening you should follow Ajax13's lead on this one.

I am willing to wager that if you keep this up your son stops acting out in school.  Keep us updated on how it is going.  You will make a great father someday if you continue on this path.

Wow, I know how a counselor feels when progress has been made.  Its a good feeling
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2009, 01:45:02 PM »
JD, my son's average in school was over 80% last year.   He's also a successful athlete, and is regarded as a leader among his peers.  One of your sons is dead because you didn't  do your job JD, and your other son is estranged from you.  My goal was to bring to light what I view to be an an unlawful and dangerous entity.  Regardless of why it happened, it has happened.  You on the other hand, have managed to accomplish nothing on Fornits, unless you really did want to set yourself referral business up to be shut down to punish yourself.  It's not too late for you to call your live son, JD.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2009, 02:01:51 PM »
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JD, my son's average in school was over 80% last year.   He's also a successful athlete, and is regarded as a leader among his peers.  One of your son's is dead because you didn't  do your job JD, and your other son is estranged from you.  My goal was to bring to light what I view to be an an unlawful and dangerous entity.  Regardless of why it happened, it has happened.  You on the other hand, have managed to accomplish nothing on Fornits, unless you really did want to set yourself referral business up to be shut down to punish yourself.  It's not too late for you to call your live son, JD.

Its good you are trying to encourage JD to connect with his son, Ajax13.  Keep at it but dont be too tough on him he may have already done it.  Let’s let him speak for himself.  Remember it has only been a few days since you turned yourself around and started spending time with your child.  You mentioned your sons average was over 80% last year but we both know you had trouble in this area.  You were confusing 85% success with 85% failure rate.  Lets not try to get too excited about his progress.   You should just stay focused with spending time with him, like I had mentioned.  I can almost guarantee that his grades will come up to above passing if you continue on the path you are on... cut out the porn, especially in front of him and don’t ridicule him when you don’t understand what he is saying to you.
 
The 80% goal is a good one but done pressure him too much, just stay the course.  I like the fact that you are becoming more goal oriented and relying on facts and figures more.  This is good...

I think I missed my calling!!!

To JD:  If you are catching any of this try posting a "hey" to Ajax13.  He has started spending time with his kid and wants to share the feeling with you.  He would appreciate some feed back.
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2009, 02:34:33 PM »
JD, you did miss your calling.  You sired two children and your calling was to be a decent father.  You weren't, so one is dead now.  However, the other is still alive and you could try to give that young man some semblance of a family after the tragedy with with which his life is beset.  Back to where we were before JD attempted to disrupt this thread, the Vancouver Province had a reporter looking at Andy Evans' facebook page and releasing a story about the AARColyte support within a day of his arrest in 2007.  I, and another interested party from Calgary contacted the reporter, who explained that she was given info about Evans and told to report it.  It backfired when the AARColytes were allowed to air their bizarre views on addiction and personal responsibility.  The Vancouver Sun, as I stated previously, is not even covering the story.  Bellett knows very well that Evans is a former AARC staffer, and Bellett loves him some AARC.  The recent article by Kevin Martin in the Calgary Sun about AARC's suit against Christine Lunn came about after AARC gave Martin a copy of the Statement of Claim.  The Sun did not acknowledge any debate about AARC in the Legislature that took place since February, nor did the Sun make any inquiries about the allegations of abuse in AARC.   Bill Brooks, the turpentine-soaked vagina-stretched-over-a-garden-claw, gave his semi-annual promo to AARC in the Sun society pages.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2009, 03:15:28 PM »
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JD, my son's average in school was over 80% last year.   He's also a successful athlete, and is regarded as a leader among his peers.  One of your son's is dead because you didn't  do your job JD, and your other son is estranged from you.  My goal was to bring to light what I view to be an an unlawful and dangerous entity.  Regardless of why it happened, it has happened.  You on the other hand, have managed to accomplish nothing on Fornits, unless you really did want to set yourself referral business up to be shut down to punish yourself.  It's not too late for you to call your live son, JD.

Its good you are trying to encourage JD to connect with his son, Ajax13.  Keep at it but dont be too tough on him he may have already done it.  Let’s let him speak for himself.  Remember it has only been a few days since you turned yourself around and started spending time with your child.  You mentioned your sons average was over 80% last year but we both know you had trouble in this area.  You were confusing 85% success with 85% failure rate.  Lets not try to get too excited about his progress.   You should just stay focused with spending time with him, like I had mentioned.  I can almost guarantee that his grades will come up to above passing if you continue on the path you are on... cut out the porn, especially in front of him and don’t ridicule him when you don’t understand what he is saying to you.
 
The 80% goal is a good one but done pressure him too much, just stay the course.  I like the fact that you are becoming more goal oriented and relying on facts and figures more.  This is good...

I think I missed my calling!!!

To JD:  If you are catching any of this try posting a "hey" to Ajax13.  He has started spending time with his kid and wants to share the feeling with you.  He would appreciate some feed back.

Dont get ahead of yourself.  I admit that the two of them are talking and focusing on their kids again.  But you are far from a counselor, but you did good.
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2009, 03:28:12 PM »
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.... journalists report facts that are relevant.  

I have to agree with Ajax13 on this.  It seems the journalists are aware of Evans past but feel it isnt relevant to the story and therefore wasnt included.
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2009, 05:03:12 PM »
Your opinion may be that the connection of Evans and other violent criminal graduates of AARC to the facility is not relevant and that is why it is not mentioned in news stories.  That is however, in contradicition to what I have heard directly from reporters, both in Vancouver and in Calgary.  That's why, you lazy fuck, you ought to try talking to those people yourself.  Your kid isn't getting any less dead JD, and every day you spend on Fornits is one you could have spent reconciling with the one you didn't kill.
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MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2009, 05:55:54 PM »
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Your opinion may be that the connection of Evans and other violent criminal graduates of AARC to the facility is not relevant and that is why it is not mentioned in news stories.  That is however, in contradicition to what I have heard directly from reporters, both in Vancouver and in Calgary.  That's why, you lazy fuck, you ought to try talking to those people yourself.  Your kid isn't getting any less dead JD, and every day you spend on Fornits is one you could have spent reconciling with the one you didn't kill.

Ha,Ha,Ha  Ajax13's change of life only lasted a few hours.  He is back to his name calling when frustrated lol.  I feel a little bad for JD, though, because he is taking the brunt of it recently instead of Vause.
So, Ajax, you think that Evans story is relevant but that the journalists just keep forgetting to include it in their story.  Hmmm.  Keep telling yourself that Ajax!!  or maybe it is another conspiracy?  That may work.  But please dont take this out on your son again and start yelling at him too and ignoring him and exposing him to porn.  You were doing so well there for a day or two.  Go back to sitting with him while he does his homework.

In the mean time if you really want to believe that the connection of Evans to AARC is important and relevant but the journalist keep forgetting to mention this fact then live it up and believe it.  We will support you if it makes you feel better.  But I have to tell you that when I spoke to them they felt the connection didnt warrant mentioning that is why it was never reported.
You should go back to calling Vause "thewiz" and asking why he went back to college... you were better at that.  Just ask the question over and over again.. maybe 20 times and then go yell at you kid!!!

To JD:  Sorry if you have to endure ajaxs outbursts.  He has been proven wrong using his own argument again and he is lashing out.  Hopefully he will settle down and spend some time with his kid before school tomorrow.  JD?  Have you called your son yet?  Ajax would appreciate some feedback.  It might help him with his problem.
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2009, 06:01:49 PM »
Every minute you spend posting on Fornits JD, is one you could have spent trying to re-establish a relationship with the one son you didn't kill.  One more year lost now, JD.
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MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2009, 06:25:36 PM »
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Every minute you spend posting on Fornits JD, is one you could have spent trying to re-establish a relationship with the one son you didn't kill.  One more year lost now, JD.

JD, Did you hear that?  I am not sure JD is getting all of these messages of yours, Ajax.  You might want to shoot a few messages off to his website.  On another note you should heed your own advice and spend some time with your own kid.  Your son is presently at the 25th percentile, acting out in school and exposed to porn and who knows what else with a father who responds to frustration with personal attacks.  Your child has a tough road ahead.  You and JD may end up having more in common than you think one day.  Keep an eye on your little one or you may lose him.  The clock is ticking Ajax.

So it seems we agree that the connection Evans has to AARC is a none issue in the eyes of the media.  The papers just dont seem to think it is important enough to mention.. even after several articles with differing vantage points explored.

Now get back in there with your son... and JD if you are listening, work on it too.

Ahhh, if this works out I may become a life coach.  I think I am pretty good at resolving stuff.
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2009, 06:29:52 PM »
A whole year gone JD, and you wasted it on Fornits.  Nothing will bring back the son you killed, but you could try to resolve something with the one left alive.
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MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
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Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2009, 06:37:51 PM »
To JD: Sorry if you have to endure ajaxs outbursts. He has been proven wrong using his own argument again and he is lashing out. Hopefully he will settle down and spend some time with his kid before school tomorrow. JD? Have you called your son yet? Ajax would appreciate some feedback. It might help him with his problem
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Re: AARC Graduate - accused murderer takes plea deal
« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2009, 06:45:14 PM »
Ajax, your posts are getting shorter which means (I am hoping ) that you are trying to spend more time with your son.  A little advice would be to try to turn off the computer and the TV and just listen to what he has to say.  Talk to him about his week coming up at school.  It goes by so quickly.  Dont let the AARC rage get to you and ruin your relationship with your son.

@JD:  Try to call your son (The one that is alive)
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« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2009, 07:52:02 PM »
JD, anybody reading Fornits with  influence on the outcome of the AARC situation long ago made their decisions about what kind of a person I am. You gave up on facts, because you didn't have any.  You were too lazy to do even a little research, because of course your interest is not in communicating facts, it is in trying to disrupt the discourse about AARC.  You sent your kids to B Mods, and you set up a referral service for B Mods, and one of your kids whom you sent to a B Mod is dead.  That is unfortunate, but I am not responsible for your son's death.  Over the last few years there have been three principle posters who continued to try to stop people from communicating openly about AARC on this forum.  One is a former staff member who has demonstrated such a high degree of aggressive and obsessive behavior towards former female AARC clients that he became a person of interest to the police.  Another is a long-time worshipper of the Wiz from his days in Saskatchewan, who went so far as to flat out lie, claiming that the Wiz was a registered psychologist, and equating my criticism of Vause with a man who cut another passenger's head off on a Greyhound bus.  Nice company you keep, JD. So there's just you three, JD and the people you are trying to stifle.  Those that want to know what's going on, and those that want to keep them from knowing.  There's no one else here, JD.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992