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Nihilanthic:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---What a fucking train wreck of a thread.
Good to see everyone's pulling punches as usual. Gotta sugar coat things for the "ME ME ME ME ME!" parent trying to get more attention about how hard it was to send money and his kid to strangers, right?
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This was me, FYI. Felt like finally logging in.
Hi, you don't know about me, but as soon as people start cluing you in you might shit your pants.
bloo bloo bloo you want to get more attention and narcissism out of this situation when you stumbled on people who buttered you up when you wanted an easy fix so your kid would behave with your new sex partner.
MODS: Why don't images open up automatically? Argh.
Anyway, I've been busy the past 6 months busting ass and taking a crash course of a college, sorry I'm not up to par with the current board software or sugar-coating-techniques. On the other hand I DID stay at a holiday inn express last night. I graduate in may.. then its time to hit the road. Thanks for making the start of my itinerary so easy to plan out there Mike :twofinger:
Antigen:
--- Quote from: "mcarter.fornits" ---Excuse me - but my wife's work phone numbers ARE NOT posted on my profile, nor on hers. Nor is my father's name. Sure, if you dig and research enough you can probably find that and a lot more. For example, my wife's work phone numbers are associated with here job, period.
Now, you will be glad to know you have frightened her. I hope those threatening us are proud of themselves - like the anti-abortionists going around with fetus's in a jar - you want to protect only certain people and hurt anyone else. So rights only extend to those hiding behind the white sheets.
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I haven't threatened anybody. Nor do I encourage anyone to do so. I also didn't look up your wife's phone numbers or any of the other things you're complaining about. These things are easily done. (check whitepages.com or google any individual's or organization's name and see what I mean)
The point is that you are the origin of the information which has enabled hostile people to locate this other information. That some people are angry, hurt and ill-mannered enough to react this way shouldn't surprise you much. Just don't make the intellectual mistake of blaming this site or anyone who uses it for publishing information which you yourself have published.
Also, since you didn't answer my message to you on your blog, I would like to clarify one thing. You refer to Fornits as "an extremely ati-program site". As the founder/administrator of this site, I haven't done anything to cause this site to be particularly anti-program. What I have done has been to invite anyone with any sort of interest in the troubled teen industry to speak freely without any censorship or moderation (though we do now also host a few moderated forums for specific purposes) If the general kant of opinion around here is against TC style treatment it's probably a fairly accurate reflection of the consensus among those of us with experience with it. In fact, as far as I can tell, the only way to bring about a pro-program social network is to vigilantly screen out any sort of dissent in much the same way as communications among program participants is so tightly controlled while in the Program.
--- Quote ---Nobody here has truly tried to discuss anything - but have loaded entry after entry with threats.
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Bullshit. Plain and simple. Many have given you good advice, like talk to your daughter directly, quit following Program advice, quit blaming her for everything, and for Christ's sake quit pretending that the kid ever had all the power in the relationship. This is a popular thread, Mike. Lots of different people reading and responding in various ways. If you choose to dismiss one person's thoughts because of another person's thoughts or deeds, well that's certainly your prerogative. But you know very well that it's a logical error.
On top of that, it's a little tempting, even for me, to rib you just a little simply because the things you're complaining about are NOthing compared to the kinds of emotional abuse your daughter is describing in her writing and which so many of us have endured. Despite myself, I do laugh just a little when the adults who actually have all the power in these situations cry like little girls over just a minuscule fraction of the kind of torment they have inflicted on their kids.
--- Quote ---Things like telling my daughter that she should slit my throat in my sleep. I guess things like that are good and proper, while doing the best I can to raise my children is wrong.
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While I strongly disagree with this sort of thinking and behavior, it is worth noting that a fairly significant number program vets/survivors do come out of it feeling just this way.
TheWho:
Michael, you have to understand this is a highly biased web site. You will never see anyone asking a fellow survivor to take responsibility or accountability at all on this site or to validate their story. Many posters never finished the program they were in and have isolated themselves from their family and now continue to heap on hatred towards programs, parents and staff randomly without speaking a word about how they might have contributed to their own consequences in life.
Be it that you are a parent whose sole purpose was to find help for your daughter will not wipe away being a program parent. If they cannot find fault in their parents, program or staff then they must look inward for the cause and this will never happen so it must be the other three.
You will notice Katies thread will receive nothing but support and no one will question her behavior or life decisions which lead her to Cross Creek stay or any other treatment. There will be an attempt to isolate her from her family and try to slowly ease her into blaming her life on staff, parents and programs so she can spend her life filled with rage and hatred like they are instead of trying to make sense out of what happened to her and how she can turn it around and figure out what she wants and move forward in life. If people truly cared they may try to coach her more to resolve issues within herself and her family.
I wouldn’t worry about anyone coming to your residence because the police can trace the people down who post here via their IP if needed (like leaving your wallet at the scene of a robbery) and they all know that.
If someone threatened to trace down Katie and harass her I am sure many here would cry foul. Interesting how it works. You were open and honest and recorded your daily journal openly on the internet so no one can fault you for not doing the best you could or hiding like a coward like many here do when the criticize and then fail to discuss their argument or who they are and why they feel like they do.
Reading your blog there were not many options left for you after trying local services which turned out to be ineffective for Katie. Very few parents have had to face the parental challenges that you had to. So don’t let posters here succeed in making you feel you did the wrong thing. Whether it turned out good or not it in the end it was the right decision at the time.
Thank you for posting here. Hang in there.
try another castle:
--- Quote ---. Many posters never finished the program they were in and have isolated themselves from their family and now continue to heap on hatred towards programs, parents and staff randomly without speaking a word about how they might have contributed to their own consequences in life.
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Oh, that's rich. Did you conduct a poll on this?
Because, of course, if you *finish* the program. That makes everything different, doesn't it? For instance, I did a full tour of duty, graduated and everything, and I can safely say that CEDU was a lovely place, full of rainbows, unicorns and ambrosia salad. I'm now an investment banker who, thanks to the hard work I did on myself at CEDU, avoided the economic cornholing that everyone else suffered in the fall. I also managed to save my family. We all live in boca raton, making a killing selling adirondack chairs to wealthy old folks who have no taste in lawn furniture.
--- Quote ---This guy has been posting this sensitive private info for the past 4 years? And the lead role player, pr/an-tagonist just found out last week?
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I'm a big, fat stupid-head, because it didn't even occur to me that this would be the case. Either that or I have alzheimers and forgot. My brain is riddled with holes.
I take back my previous posts.
Here's some unsolicited advice, Mike: take whatever money you have remaining (after having your wallet raped by wwasps) and get yourself some long term care insurance. I have a hunch you may need it when you're old.
Antigen:
How can this site be biased when there's no censorship? Where does the bias come from?
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