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FemanonFatal2.0:
--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Those who post on this forum believe anything and everything is abusive. They even think being forced to do gym class in public school is abusive. I think it's time to bring back the paddle in public schools, because it's got totally out of control with kids manipulating their family and school officials. Parents today are too weak willed to properly deal with a troubled teen, and that is why they seek help. I tried everything with my daughter, even the paddle, and nothing worked. I had no choice but to seek outside help. Because of this, I am made out to be some sort of bad guy on this forum. If parents had the freedom to do what programs do to kids, we wouldn't need outside help. It's time to loosen government regulation and laws regarding what a family member can do to another, and then programs wouldn't be needed as much, at least by people like me.
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retarded troll is retarded
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" --- Why is everything twisted around to be abusive here? What’s the point? Is there such little evidence of abuse within these places that you have to start fabricating definitions?
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You've turned the problem on its head. What WWASP (and other abusive programs) do is take the tactics and methods and practices that are used by legitimate hospitals and care facilities in appropriate ways, that benefit the patients, and twist them into actions and methods that inflict humiliation and pain. The pain and humiliation is required to achieve the breakdown necessary to coercive persuasion. They use the fact professional and legitimate facilities sometimes use a color code and restraint and isolation as a shield which they can use to hide what they are actually doing.
For example: Restraint in a WWASP program is a very different thing from restraint in a legitimate care facility. When a parent hears restraint may be used, they think they know what that means. They have no idea that what WWASP means is the kid will be thrown to the floor with enough force to break teeth and jaws in some cases; they will have their joints ground into the surface of the floor - as well as their chin; they will have their joints twisted into extreme positions which will frequently cause dislocations. They will scream in pain and beg for this to stop while those "restraining" them laugh at them. No one pictures anything remotely like that when told by the WWASP sales staff or family rep that their child may be restrained. Nor can they imagine this will occur if the kid so much as looks out a window or is overheard saying they wish they could go home. You'd assume a kid would have to be dangerously out of control to be restrained. In a WWASP program this assumption is way wrong.
And when you hear Isolation, you think of a room where a patient is left to gain control of their overwrought emotions in a safe quite place. You imagine it might last an hour or two. WWASP uses a number of terms for their version of isolation - but what it is in a WWASP program is a place where the teen must maintain a stress position, and silence, for up to 12 hours a day; for days and weeks and even months at a time. They are fed very little; They are not allow rest room breaks and often are forced to urinate and even defecate on themselves; They are not allow to shift from their assigned positions. If they do they are restrained.
Peer review is another good example. Peer review is used by some legitimate group therapist and when used appropriately, with professional guidence, for positive reinforcement, or constructive criticism it can be helpful. But what WWASP does is turn the kids into vicious, verbal attack dogs who focus entirely upon the humiliation and degradation of whatever poor soul they are "reviewing". This erodes then destroys any tendency towards kindness or decency in the attack dogs and any joy and hope and confidence from the victim. It is terribly harmful for all concerned.
All of this is designed to create the fear and anxiety required to program the kid. That's why this kind of abuse is so systemic in these teen warehouse type facilities. They must inflict physical and mental abuse for the program to "work".
As for it "working" - It sometimes produces a kind of programmed stupor that can pass for improvement, but this seldom last. Most of the kids seem to come out and fall into behaviors far worse than what sent them there. They are not helped, and instead come out with their problems exasperated by Post Traumatic Stress. Its nothing less than tragic.
try another castle:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---What does your daughter think about her experience in treatment and your parenting style, NeilW? And what does she think about your obsessive ranting on fornits? I'd be willing to bet that you don't even have a daughter, or any kids for that matter.
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That's not neil. Someone is spoofing him.
Time to get an account, neil! :seg:
NeilW:
Good idea! It seems like some troll has nothing better to do than pretend to be me, I'm flattered to be so important!
I would suggest ignoring anybody else using my name that isn't signed in. The little rascals here want nothing more than to silence my point of view.
Antigen:
--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---I think it's time to bring back the paddle in public schools, because it's got totally out of control with kids manipulating their family and school officials.
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Yeah... right?? Cause the 12-16 year olds hold all the power in our society. They've got decades of life experience and learning, earning power, moral authority and credibility that us old farts just haven't got. They can pressure us to do damned near anything without question or challenge. Many people even dismiss obvious abuse resulting in death as just an unfortunate accident blameable entirely on the adult for being non-compliant.....
Oh wait! Sorry, sorry, sorry, I forgot, it's the other way around. Whew! Slipped into another world there for a minute! You should have seen the sky, though! The color was just.... indescribable!
Seriously, not that kids should hold all the power in any society, but don't try and kid yourself that they do. They don't have the savvy, experience or social leverage to apply anywhere near the pressure that an offhand choice on the part of any of possibly hundreds of adults in their lives as we can to them. Laying the blame on the obviously less powerful party.... well that would be as cowardly as, say, to sin by silence when one should protest.
Peace
Honestly
Ginger McNulty
P.S.
I agree very strongly with TAC's sentiments above. I wish I could connect on any meaningful level with my mother or any but one of my 5 brothers and sisters. That one brother is the only one who might piss on me if I were on fire, but he'd probably piss on me anyway. He and I split the program without graduating, the eldest never went through but joined a rather militant Stepcraft coven later in life (to treat her two glasses of wine a night addiction.... or maybe just to get back in good standing with the rest of the family).
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