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Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "mcarter.fornits" --- I'd like to challenge all of you to be as open with your identity as mine has become.
I'd like all of the people who feel the need to criticize me put up their name and links to their pictures as well.
--- End quote ---
People who do their best to remain anonymous on the internet are prudent, and wise. People like you, who post their life stories and family information, full names, and pictures for the entire world to see, are naive.. at best.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" ---M. Carter - you've taken a tiger by the tail and given it a yank. But thats good. It might go a long way to waking you up.
You made a terrible decision when you put your daughter in a WWASP program. I understand fully the kind of stress and frustration and fear that brought about this terrible decision; but it was a terrible decision none-the-less. Indeed, as our Bruin friend suggest, you should get down on your knees and thank God you aren't responsible for any referrals.
I too am a WWASP program parent. I know how it is done; how they worked on you; how the program set you up and realed you in; how they gained and kept control of your thinking and actions with regard to your daughter and the program. I have a reading list to suggest.
Help at Any Cost (how the troubled teen industry cons parents and hurts kids) by Maia Szalavitz
Cults in Our Midst, by Margret Singer
Both deal directly with WWASP and/or the LGAT WWASP forces upon the students and parents.
You may also want to look at a few other web sites.
http://www.turleylaw.com
On the left hand sidebar you will see a link to recent filings. This will take you to a PDF copy of the case Turley has filed against WWASP and all related entities. Also on the left you will see the on-line form to fill out if your interested in having your case reviewed. This may by of special interest to Kattie.
http://www.isaccorp.org
ISAC has a great deal of information on WWASP. http://www.isaccorp.org/wwasps.asp
http://www.wwaspsinfo.net
A collection of newspaper articles about the wwasp programs.
http://www.tbfight.com
they have a collection of video clips you can access, as well as a lot of commentary.
http://www.paulareeves.com
A repentant WWASP program parent's site.
http://www.nospank.net/boot.htm#n-i04
Jordan Riak's site. This page has some info about Congressman Millers efforts to stop the abuse.
http://teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/tribute1.html
A memorial list of kids that have died in programs.
http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/des ... t-pg.shtml
A great seris of articles about the WWASP program. I hope it will open.
(If any of you cyber geeks know how to copy this site you should)
Thats enough to get you started.
If you want to "converse" with me After you have done the above reccomended research, feel free to contact me through this site.
Oh - let me second this: PBS montana did a good documentary on this:
http://www.montanapbs.org/WhosWatchingTheKids/
You gotta watch this PBS documentary.
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thank you for this post, buzzkill.
katie, ignore any meaness you get hear on this thread..just inexcusable to have any of that aimed at you.
mcarter.fornits:
--- Quote from: "psy" ---Btw: name's Michael Crawford
..and just so you know, there is hardly any regulation at all over private programs for teens. You might want to read a book on this such as "Help at any cost" by Maia Szalavitz.
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Thanks Michael. Yes, I've read the book. Not what I would call an open or balanced account of anything. In fact, I have yet to see
anyone write anything that tried to be balanced - they have all started with an agenda and tried to prove it. The most interesting
part of the book is that of the very few programs she talked about, Cross Creek came out basically without a problem. She didn't like
it, but couldn't condemn it (aside from the fact that they wouldn't meet with her).
Guest - I name you coward - and beyond that refuse to acknowledge anything you respond with (nor the insults you throw) until you come
forward, reveal yourself, and quit hiding behind the internet.
Buzzkill - oops, another anonymous name pushing a cause. Come forward if you truly want to be heard.
People saying that it is prudent to remain hidden on the internet - WHILE ATTACKING OTHERS - are cowards. Period.
If you choose to attack me - then reveal yourself, don't hide. In the US Courts - everyone has a right to confront their accuser. People
here are attacking me and hiding. No charges have been brought against me, nor will any be, because I have not broken any laws, and
while many people do not agree with the decisions I have made ( every person's right - but then these are anonymous beings out there, not
people - I acknowledge no rights to anyone without a name!) they are my decisions.
As I stated before, I doubt I'll check this very often - because it does not seem that many people here wish to actually discuss anything.
They instead want to make hidden attacks against me - and I refuse to give them that power.
So group up, welcome to the real world, and once you quit hiding behind your keyboard then we can talk like people.
Anonymous:
"You guys are all standing up there clean and dry! Come down here in the mud with me and say that!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :twofinger: Yeaaaahhh.. I'm thinkin'... NO.
"with an agenda"
What, do they make you fuckgoblins in a mass production facility or something? Is there not one of you with a single original thought in your head? You sound exactly like.. well damn near every other programmie on Fornits.
Did you seriously think talking points were going to work here?!
"these are anonymous beings out there, not people"
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BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA AHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHA HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
IF YOU ONLY KNEW!!
You go and torture your daughter, continue to make a blog in which you gloat about how you treat her like shit, come onto FORNITS of all places and effectively BRAG about it, and then- AND THEN!- proceed to talk about anonymous beings? I don't think anyone here will actually grant your death wish physically, but I've never seen it expressed so cleanly. At least one other Anonymous has expressed an interest in ruining your fucking life and I don't think he/she/it is going to back down now. And you're cooperating! "HI EVERYBODY MY NAME IS MICHAEL CARTER AND I SENT MY DAUGHTER TO A WWASP SHITHOLE" and you expect respect for that?!
Oh.. oh man. You are one dumb, dumb son of a bitch.
Are you congenitally disabled from knowing the difference between love and hate, hope and fear, joy and rage? Is THAT what is wrong with you?
TheWho:
The books available here are carefully screened. There are books available by Pulitzer prized authors who wrote on the subject. One in particular who spent 16 months inside a program following a group of kids through from beginning to end and gives the reader a candid look at the children’s daily lives. I can send you off some reading, although it is after the fact now so it may not be as interesting.
As far as the negative posts go. Like myself you are a program parent and will not be received here very well by some extreme posters. What I have become very good at is quickly screening post for content prior to reading them and ignoring the abusive posts. It allows me to cut thru the crap and focus on the valuable posts. Don’t let them get to you, Michael.
Your blog is very helpful to other parents who are struggling with similar family issues. Thank you for taking the time to posts as often as you did. I am sure you help others with it.
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