Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Another Death of Ex-HLAer
psy:
--- Quote from: "OY7DiiWJ" ---Do you have information no one else here does?
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No, this was covered a while back publicly where a representative from the organization in question admitted to it publicly. This was during the "great backup failure" period, though, so the posts were lost. Long story. Contact me privately if you want the full thing.
--- Quote ---Are you saying that the GAO reports on HLA weren't given to the IRS?
Or was your comment actually off-topic and indeed an attempt to "pry open old wounds". Rather, pour some salt on a wound?
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no.
psy:
--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---
--- Quote ---Sadly, due to the meddling of a certain organization that will not be named, that evidence was scrapped from the final report in favor of only evidence that would support the effectiveness of a certain bill (which wasn't passed anyway). Everybody who knows what i'm talking about knows, and i'll leave it at that. No need to pry open old wounds.
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This is a bold faced lie.
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Unfortunately, it's not. Check your email.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "psy" ---
--- Quote from: "OY7DiiWJ" ---Do you have information no one else here does?
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No, this was covered a while back publicly where a representative from the organization in question admitted to it publicly. This was during the "great backup failure" period, though, so the posts were lost. Long story. Contact me privately if you want the full thing.
--- Quote ---Are you saying that the GAO reports on HLA weren't given to the IRS?
Or was your comment actually off-topic and indeed an attempt to "pry open old wounds". Rather, pour some salt on a wound?
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no.
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How is that relevant to this discussion? What's it got to do with the GAOs report on HLA being given to the IRS? Now if you have some evidence that IRS "scrapped" the GAO report because of some 'organization's" alleged mistake, the folks in the HLA forum might be interested. Otherwise, take your resentment of CAFETY back to a forum where it's of interest.
Better yet, why don't you see if you can locate a different confirmation code system. How many people say 'fuck it' when they have to guess at the characters 6 times in order to post.
psy:
--- Quote from: "4FYEVV" ---
--- Quote from: "psy" ---
--- Quote from: "OY7DiiWJ" ---Do you have information no one else here does?
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No, this was covered a while back publicly where a representative from the organization in question admitted to it publicly. This was during the "great backup failure" period, though, so the posts were lost. Long story. Contact me privately if you want the full thing.
--- Quote ---Are you saying that the GAO reports on HLA weren't given to the IRS?
Or was your comment actually off-topic and indeed an attempt to "pry open old wounds". Rather, pour some salt on a wound?
--- End quote ---
no.
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How is that relevant to this discussion? What's it got to do with the GAOs report on HLA being given to the IRS? Now if you have some evidence that IRS "scrapped" the GAO report because of some 'organization's" alleged mistake, the folks in the HLA forum might be interested. Otherwise, take your resentment of CAFETY back to a forum where it's of interest.
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I wasn't talking about the IRS scrapping anything. Sorry if that was unclear. I'm sure they are looking into HLA if evidence was provided to them. I was just talking about content for the hearing and report (public) being scrapped based on the behind the scenes recommendations to miller's office, the reasoning of which was: if it wasn't going to be "fixed" by the bill, it shouldn't be discussed. The idea was to convince people that this bill could fix everything, somehow. IMO, wishful thinking at it's worst, and it undermined a lot of people's hard work. The public's right to know and the truth took a back burner to a political agenda. It wasn't the GAO's fault, I want to be clear on that, but their hands were tied by what the committee wanted in the report and at the hearing.
--- Quote ---Better yet, why don't you see if you can locate a different confirmation code system. How many people say 'fuck it' when they have to guess at the characters 6 times in order to post.
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If I reduce it any, spam gets through, and a lot of it. Sorry.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "psy" ---I wasn't talking about the IRS scrapping anything. Sorry if that was unclear. I'm sure they are looking into HLA if evidence was provided to them.
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That's what I thought. Your comment was totally irrelevant to this discussion.
Someone said "GAO/Miller" and you couldn't resist the opportunity to slam CAFETY and Miller's legislative efforts. The idea was never to convince people that the bill could fix everything. That's so naieve. It undermined NO ONEs hard work. The people's right to know did not take a back burner to a political agenda. The legislation would do as much or more to educate the public- via its mandate that programs provide a link to the government site where information on programs with violations, deaths, injuries are listed- than fornits does. It would've been logistically impossible to include every survivor for the past 30 years in the limited scope of the hearing. Miller has been trying for legislation for at least a couple of decades. I think he has a better handle on what will fly and what won't.
Now, what were we discussing... oh yes, will IRS act on the information they've been give, which included the GAOs report.
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