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Trails Carolina - new program
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---But all kidding aside and in all fairness I think this shows how far this industry has come when the dirt we find on them are mostly paperwork issues in-line with the level of findings one would expect from many hospitals.
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Well now, it would all depend on just what those "paperwork issues" were, eh? I don't think we're talking 'bout failure to record a staff potluck in the "events" file here...
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Until we see the paperwork all we can do is speculate. If they didnt record the pot luck, in the events section, they should be written up like any other infraction. What if a kid had a peanut allergy and almost died, we would want to know who brought what to the dinner and if there was any intent to hurt the child?
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--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---There's a big difference between "written down" and "informed", Ursus. Ever hear of this little thing called "plausible deniability"? Why the fuck would a program ever write down something like that, anywhere?
Documenting something and then torching it later is the way of the foolish past. The modern technique is just not to document it at all. Safer that way.
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Exactly, so basically you got nothing.
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Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---...informing appropriate personnel when events during a restraint do not go well. Such as a staff member losing it and punching a kid in the face.
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There's a big difference between "written down" and "informed", Ursus. Ever hear of this little thing called "plausible deniability"? Why the fuck would a program ever write down something like that, anywhere?
Documenting something and then torching it later is the way of the foolish past. The modern technique is just not to document it at all. Safer that way.
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Exactly, so basically you got nothing.
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That wouldn't appear to be in sync with how the state of North Carolina sees it... Nice try at a bluff, though!
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---...informing appropriate personnel when events during a restraint do not go well. Such as a staff member losing it and punching a kid in the face.
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There's a big difference between "written down" and "informed", Ursus. Ever hear of this little thing called "plausible deniability"? Why the fuck would a program ever write down something like that, anywhere?
Documenting something and then torching it later is the way of the foolish past. The modern technique is just not to document it at all. Safer that way.
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Exactly, so basically you got nothing.
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That wouldn't appear to be in sync with how the state of North Carolina sees it... Nice try at a bluff, though!
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You are the one claiming to have the info, so until we all see it posted or some link of some sort then the bluff is on your end. I am merely waiting for the evidence.
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DannyB II:
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---...informing appropriate personnel when events during a restraint do not go well. Such as a staff member losing it and punching a kid in the face.
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There's a big difference between "written down" and "informed", Ursus. Ever hear of this little thing called "plausible deniability"? Why the fuck would a program ever write down something like that, anywhere?
Documenting something and then torching it later is the way of the foolish past. The modern technique is just not to document it at all. Safer that way.
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Exactly, so basically you got nothing.
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That wouldn't appear to be in sync with how the state of North Carolina sees it... Nice try at a bluff, though!
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You are the one claiming to have the info, so until we all see it posted or some link of some sort then the bluff is on your end. I am merely waiting for the evidence.
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Ya know I was thinking the same thing, he (Ursus) gets so caught up in his own words he forgets what his intentions were.
Evidence Ursus.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---...informing appropriate personnel when events during a restraint do not go well. Such as a staff member losing it and punching a kid in the face.
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--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---There's a big difference between "written down" and "informed", Ursus. Ever hear of this little thing called "plausible deniability"? Why the fuck would a program ever write down something like that, anywhere?
Documenting something and then torching it later is the way of the foolish past. The modern technique is just not to document it at all. Safer that way.
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Exactly, so basically you got nothing.
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---That wouldn't appear to be in sync with how the state of North Carolina sees it... Nice try at a bluff, though!
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---You are the one claiming to have the info, so until we all see it posted or some link of some sort then the bluff is on your end. I am merely waiting for the evidence.
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--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---Ya know I was thinking the same thing, he (Ursus) gets so caught up in his own words he forgets what his intentions were.
Evidence Ursus.
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Lols. Just what exactly are you trying to say, Dannyboy? Words... intentions... you would seem to know a lot about those, eh?
Apparently... someone filed a complaint on TRAILS Carolina, and the North Carolina Division of Health Service Regulation and/or the County Department of Social Services investigated earlier this year. Not only was the complaint found to be substantiated, but a number of other violations were also found, specifically:
* V 114 · 27G .0207 Emergency Plans and Supplies
* V 118 · 27G .0209 (C) Medication Requirements (medication administration)
* V 123 · 27G .0209 (H) Medication Requirements (medication errors)
* V 131 · G.S. 131E-256 (D2) HCPR - Prior Employment Verification (health care personnel registry)
* V 132 · G.S. 131E-256(G) HCPR - Notification, Allegations, & Protection (health care personnel registry)
* V 133 · G.S. 122C-80 Criminal History Record Check
* V 500 · 27D .0101(a-e) Client Rights - Policy on Rights (policy on rights restrictions and interventions)
* V 503 · 27D .0103 Client Rights - Search And Seizure Policy
* V 512 · 27D .0304 Client Rights - Harm, Abuse, Neglect (protection from harm, abuse, neglect or exploitation)
* V 522 · 27E .0104(e10) Client Rights - Sec. Rest. & ITO (seclusion, physical restraint and isolation time-out and protective devices used for behavior control)
* V 537 · 27E .0108 Client Rights - Training in Sec Rest & ITO (training in seclusion, physical restraint and isolation time-out)
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