Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Trails Carolina - new program
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "ejsdesign" ---Definitely NOT an Aspen Group. Most of the staff did work in Apsen programs but tired of the corporate money making machine. This is an independently owned program.
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This is very typical in the business world. The corporation grows too big and people tire of the lack of intimacy and freedom to develop and implement new ideas so they head out on their own to try something new. This is a very healthy way for the industry to grow and improve. I am sure Aspen (and others) are watching them closely to see how and if they are successful and adopt some of their practices if they are working well.
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Spoken like a true marketer, Whooter... I'm sure Aspen is both flattered and proud of ya. :D
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Maybe I missed my calling lol, but marketing never really interested me, I liked to be down in the dirt (so to speak) getting the product out the door and solving problems. But anyone familiar with big business will tell you that you always lose a few good people who are ambitious and can’t wait around for the corporate machine to take notice of you. I had been there myself. I am sure Aspen wasn’t happy to lose them and isn’t proud to lose them. But, it is what makes capitalism work so well and drives businesses to improve and stay competitive.
On a side note: Curious how it always seems to bother you,Ursus, when the good side of the industry is shown here on fornits or when you struggle to put an evil spin on a post.
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"Struggling?" For a one-sentence reply? "Evil spin?" LOLOLLLL. That might have been a more appropriate response to another post.
Methinks you are struggling to keep your responses sorted from one another. :rofl:
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "ejsdesign" ---Definitely NOT an Aspen Group. Most of the staff did work in Apsen programs but tired of the corporate money making machine. This is an independently owned program.
--- End quote ---
This is very typical in the business world. The corporation grows too big and people tire of the lack of intimacy and freedom to develop and implement new ideas so they head out on their own to try something new. This is a very healthy way for the industry to grow and improve. I am sure Aspen (and others) are watching them closely to see how and if they are successful and adopt some of their practices if they are working well.
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Spoken like a true marketer, Whooter... I'm sure Aspen is both flattered and proud of ya. :D
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Maybe I missed my calling lol, but marketing never really interested me, I liked to be down in the dirt (so to speak) getting the product out the door and solving problems. But anyone familiar with big business will tell you that you always lose a few good people who are ambitious and can’t wait around for the corporate machine to take notice of you. I had been there myself. I am sure Aspen wasn’t happy to lose them and isn’t proud to lose them. But, it is what makes capitalism work so well and drives businesses to improve and stay competitive.
On a side note: Curious how it always seems to bother you,Ursus, when the good side of the industry is shown here on fornits or when you struggle to put an evil spin on a post.
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"Struggling?" For a one-sentence reply? "Evil spin?" LOLOLLLL. That might have been a more appropriate response to another post.
Methinks you are struggling to keep your responses sorted from one another. :rofl:
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Sorry, I seem to have hit a nerve with my use of the word "Struggling", I will try to come up with another descriptor if you like. Why does it bug you so much when you cant find any dirt on a program? Curious...
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Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---This is very typical in the business world. The corporation grows too big and people tire of the lack of intimacy and freedom to develop and implement new ideas so they head out on their own to try something new. This is a very healthy way for the industry to grow and improve. I am sure Aspen (and others) are watching them closely to see how and if they are successful and adopt some of their practices if they are working well.
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Spoken like a true marketer, Whooter... I'm sure Aspen is both flattered and proud of ya. :D
--- End quote ---
Maybe I missed my calling lol, but marketing never really interested me, I liked to be down in the dirt (so to speak) getting the product out the door and solving problems. But anyone familiar with big business will tell you that you always lose a few good people who are ambitious and can’t wait around for the corporate machine to take notice of you. I had been there myself. I am sure Aspen wasn’t happy to lose them and isn’t proud to lose them. But, it is what makes capitalism work so well and drives businesses to improve and stay competitive.
On a side note: Curious how it always seems to bother you,Ursus, when the good side of the industry is shown here on fornits or when you struggle to put an evil spin on a post.
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"Struggling?" For a one-sentence reply? "Evil spin?" LOLOLLLL. That might have been a more appropriate response to another post.
Methinks you are struggling to keep your responses sorted from one another. :rofl:
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Sorry, I seem to have hit a nerve with you using the word "Struggling", I will try to come up with another descriptor if you like.
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Nope. Nary a nerve. Well, maybe my funny bone, lol. But do keep trying, Whooter; I enjoy our work-outs! :D
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Why does it bug you so much when you cant find any dirt on a program? Curious...
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Shucks, thanks for the lead-in, but I'm still working on my copy and paste. It seems Trails Carolina has some problems with their "medication management," background checks on personnel, and a host of documentation issues which include, but are not restricted to, informing appropriate personnel when events during a restraint do not go well. Such as a staff member losing it and punching a kid in the face.
DannyB II:
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--- Quote from: "ejsdesign" ---Definitely NOT an Aspen Group. Most of the staff did work in Apsen programs but tired of the corporate money making machine. This is an independently owned program.
--- End quote ---
This is very typical in the business world. The corporation grows too big and people tire of the lack of intimacy and freedom to develop and implement new ideas so they head out on their own to try something new. This is a very healthy way for the industry to grow and improve. I am sure Aspen (and others) are watching them closely to see how and if they are successful and adopt some of their practices if they are working well.
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Spoken like a true marketer, Whooter... I'm sure Aspen is both flattered and proud of ya. :D
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Spoken like a true marketer, Ursus... I'm sure Fornits is both flattered and proud of ya.
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You are not making sense, Danny. I am not marketing anything, nor am I making excuses for an industry that takes advantage of desperate parents.
Quite the contrary. I'm trying to alert folks to the potential dangers of that industry.
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Well Ursus I beg to differ with you, you are marketing/promoting a axiom, precept, law, principle based upon your convictions of what you believe the TTI is doing. I can see that and I respect that.
My problem has always been if others don't have the laws of principle you have, well then we are corrupted.
I say to that opinion, bullshit. You don't hold the moral ground here, all by yourselves.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Shucks, thanks for the lead-in, but I'm still working on my copy and paste. It seems Trails Carolina has some problems with their "medication management," background checks on personnel, and a host of documentation issues which include, but are not restricted to, informing appropriate personnel when events during a restraint do not go well. Such as a staff member losing it and punching a kid in the face.
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Oh no!, That’s terrible!! That sounds very much like our friend DJ. He likes to solve his problems by punching people out. Did he ever serve as staff there? I think if you cant find the original you may be able to confirm they use IBM computers {wink} or find a staff member who once worked for CEDU. That would surely result in branding the program ineffective and abusive.
But all kidding aside and in all fairness I think this shows how far this industry has come when the dirt we find on them are mostly paperwork issues in-line with the level of findings one would expect from many hospitals.
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