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ZenAgent:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Man, you really pick through the media with a fine-toothed flea comb, Oscar. I'm impressed.
Andrew Klepper apparently went to CEDU High School after this incident. Was that before or after Peninsula Village?
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After.
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Erica Kaplan:: teddibear381@aol.com:: 07/02/2005
For the record i went to CEDU highschool with Andrew Klepper after this crime was commited... hes just a very misunderstood boy, i dont count him as a threat to society... yes, hes made ALOT of HUGE and unforgiveable mistakes in his life but that should not result in him being portrayed as some sort of monsterouse being... i am in no way excusing this horrible crime or saying not to blame him... i'm just saying that Andrew has changed, and he's doing really well and i'm proud of his turn around.
thank you for your time,
erica
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I had this exchange on Facebook with one of Klepper's former classmates in MD:
--- Quote from: "from LM" ---i knew that kid
he was fuckin weird
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--- Quote from: "Zen" ---I've read that he was only "misunderstood". I don't think that quite covers Klepper's status.
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--- Quote from: "from LM" ---dude, trust me...he had problems...and no he was very much UNDERSTOOD
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stoodoodog:
Prof. Angela Davis cites the Klepper case in her book Arbitrary Justice: The Power of the American Prosecutor[/u]...
http://books.google.com/books?id=YMZ543KzcO0C
On page 49 she describes Andrew's opportunity to "receive rehabilitative treatment at the Tennessee facility."
I have not read the book, but the excerpts on Klepper can be previewed in the link above.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Are you stoned?
The state detention facilities take the same point of view and take it one step further. They rub your incarceration right in your face and never allow you to forget it. The state is the ultimate power with your parents having no say or control over it. Most claims of physical, sexual, and mental abuse are swept right under the rug.
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While I agree with most of your critique, most importantly the overgeneralizations in the past post, here's where I think private programs are worse than state run programs.
When it's the state that's abusing you at the very least you may still have your family to turn to for support after the fact. Since the parents have no say or control over the abuse, they are more likely to believe you when you claim to have been abused, since they don't have to deal with the guilt of being responsible of exposing you to that abuse.
When it's your parents who have contracted out abuse, who are you going to turn to for support to validate your claims other than other survivors?
Che Gookin:
Dude...
You do realize the huge glaring hole in your argument right? For the majority of these kids in private or public programs their families aren't going to show up even if you are being pissed on by two staffers dressed in matching tutus on national television.
I think someone made a really interesting point about Martin Anderson's family. How soon was it after they were awarded 4 million dollars did one of them end up with a mouth full of golds?
meh.
FemanonFatal2.0:
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---Dude...
You do realize the huge glaring hole in your argument right? For the majority of these kids in private or public programs their families aren't going to show up even if you are being pissed on by two staffers dressed in matching tutus on national television.
I think someone made a really interesting point about Martin Anderson's family. How soon was it after they were awarded 4 million dollars did one of them end up with a mouth full of golds?
meh.
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Sometimes I REALLY don't get you... I mean seriously who's side are you on?... it seems like the only people you pick apart are survivors while the only ones you defend are program parents and trolls.
I will quote no one other than yourself to prove my point here.
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---It isn't whether he/she has a point or not. Agree or disagree that's up to you. Just don't belittle him/her for having a point of view. Save that sort of thing for those who deserve it.
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