Film on Aaron Bacon

[Che Gookin]

HOWEVER I do not agree with the excuse that ALL parents are conned.

We both agree.
Pleasure doing business with you.

lol ok.

but your still an asshole.

Better an asshole than an _______________ . i was going to say Idiot, but I'll let you fill in the blank with whatever suits your fancy. i just don't have it in me to crush your illusions.

[Anonymous]

So anyway, I'd probably rather watch some BAD PORN than watch that movie.

[Anonymous]

So anyway, I'd probably rather watch some BAD PORN than watch that movie.

I hear ya- what survivor in their right mind would wanna watch a crappy movie based on what they went through in real life??

No thanks..... I'll pass....  :dose:  ::puke::

[FemanonFatal2.0]

HOWEVER I do not agree with the excuse that ALL parents are conned.

We both agree.
Pleasure doing business with you.

lol ok.

but your still an asshole.

Better an asshole than an _______________ . i was going to say Idiot, but I'll let you fill in the blank with whatever suits your fancy. i just don't have it in me to crush your illusions.

The funniest thing about this statement is that you are actually implying that I am less intelligent than you. Which I'm not even going to get into your past employment or education history lol. But I challenge you to consider one thing. When a parent "loves" their child, and through their infinite wisdom diagnose their child as "In need of help" do they seek out a professional, safe practicing, state licensed program? or do they just go with the first private program that agrees to take their child without a preliminary diagnosis? These parents are so sure that they are right about how screwed up their kids are they will ship their kids out to the first place that agrees with them before they (the program) have even seen the child. The fact that none of these programs have a proper admissions process, boast credentials or a system designed to fit the needs of all the kids' individual problems would be more than enough for me to realize that this could potentially be bad placement for a child. Here's what I mean, If Mr and Mrs Bacon thought their son truly had a drug problem ( ) then they should have been looking for a rehab not a wilderness program. But instead these parents find a school that just lists any number of adolescent problems and say that their "tough love" system can cure them all. I'm sorry but that sounds just about as legit as a TJ hooker. Unfortunately these private torture camps are the only "programs" that are willing to kidnap the child, hold him against his will and treat him so badly that he will come home grateful. And contrary to popular belief this is EXACTLY what these parents are looking for, not "help" out of "love". Unfortunately in Aaron Bacon's case he did not come home grateful, He did not come home at all.

I may have sympathy for Mr and Mrs Bacon, they lost a child and they partially have themselves to blame for that, living with that guilt must tear them apart everyday, and for that I can only wish them solace. Lets hope they don't read this. But until the Bacon's choose to acknowledge the unnecessary hysteria that drove them to even look for a program for their kids, and furthermore explain to parents that things like weed smoking is normal teenage behavior, I wont discount my theory. I don't doubt that these parents love their children, I think pretty much all parents love their children, but I don't think it is "love" that these parents are acting out of when they seek out a program.

[Anonymous]

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So anyway, I'd probably rather watch some BAD PORN than watch that movie.

I hear ya- what survivor in their right mind would wanna watch a crappy movie based on what they went through in real life??

No thanks..... I'll pass....  :dose:  ::puke::

"Crappy" is the operative word.

[Ursus]

If Mr and Mrs Bacon thought their son truly had a drug problem ( ) then they should have been looking for a rehab not a wilderness program.

Here's one hook via which a lot of these programs grab gullible parents: rehab looks bad on a kid's record; wilderness does not. So, by trying to look a few years down the road, trying to make a decision with the least apparent negative impact on their kid's record, parents fall into the program trap.

I doubt that Aaron's parents thought he had a serious enough "drug problem" to warrant a full-fledged rehab. Rather, I think they were struggling with what they perceived to be a "Gateway" type situation.

This is precisely the type of ambiguous circumstance that program marketers prey upon. Here is where the dire premonition that your kid will end up deadinsaneorinjail if you don't sign him up right now ASAP, packs the hardest punch.

[Che Gookin]

I may have sympathy for Mr and Mrs Bacon, they lost a child and they blame themselves for that every single day., living with that guilt must tear them apart everyday, and for that I can only wish them solace. Lets hope they don't read this, but I have the sickening feeling that they already have or soon will because people like the Bacons regularly read fornits and forums like it. The Bacon's acknowledge the unnecessary hysteria that drove them to even look for a program for their kids, and furthermore explain to parents that these programs kill people like their own son, I wont discount my theory, but one day I'll even go the distance and acknowledge that it wasn't smoking dope alone that scared the Bacons into looking for a wilderness program. But I will be honest and say that my theories are really opinions fueled by my own experiences. So do take them with a pinch of salt. I don't doubt that these parents love their children, I think pretty much all parents love their children.

 
Fixed it for you. Please keep replying because your massive wall o' texts are hilarious to read in the way you continuously contradict yourself about every other sentence.

[Anonymous]

So anyway, I'd probably rather watch some BAD PORN than watch that movie.

I hear ya- what survivor in their right mind would wanna watch a crappy movie based on what they went through in real life??

No thanks..... I'll pass....  :dose:  ::puke::

:nods:

[Anonymous]

I may have sympathy for Mr and Mrs Bacon, they lost a child and they blame themselves for that every single day., living with that guilt must tear them apart everyday, and for that I can only wish them solace. Lets hope they don't read this, but I have the sickening feeling that they already have or soon will because people like the Bacons regularly read fornits and forums like it. The Bacon's acknowledge the unnecessary hysteria that drove them to even look for a program for their kids, and furthermore explain to parents that these programs kill people like their own son, I wont discount my theory, but one day I'll even go the distance and acknowledge that it wasn't smoking dope alone that scared the Bacons into looking for a wilderness program. But I will be honest and say that my theories are really opinions fueled by my own experiences. So do take them with a pinch of salt. I don't doubt that these parents love their children, I think pretty much all parents love their children.

 
Fixed it for you. Please keep replying because your massive wall o' texts are hilarious to read in the way you continuously contradict yourself about every other sentence.

You know, me and this femenon person give our theories on the matter, based on actually having read the books about the subject, unlike you. And, uh, yeah our theories are also based on  our own experience; first hand "field experience" you could call it. We  have expereinced parents who put their kids away in the 90s, discounting your theory that if the abduction took place in the 90s then the act didn't stem from abusive motivations.  We have experienced parents who had their kids abducted and imprisoned with a profile that matches Aaron, and based on that, the Bacon's pre-program behavior, how they treated their other kids, their sense of their act now we have ideas about why they behaved as they did. Ultimately, at the very least, your theory that they made did what they did "out of love" is no less a theory than ours.

In response to our posts all you do is say "no youre wrong" and add an insult. You are kind of rude. I also read where you tell the mother whose kid died in Youth  Care to stop whining and making it all about her to her face. I'm not sure where your sensitvity arises from, all of a sudden. Are you sure you aren't just "trolling" here? Makes me think.

[Che Gookin]

Because we all know that no one ever changes their minds. Yep.. mhhmmm..

First of all you reading a book or three hardly makes you an expert on the motivations of two people or a group of people you've never met. And for reference, I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm saying you are chock full of shit.

[Anonymous]

Because we all know that no one ever changes their minds. Yep.. mhhmmm..

First of all you reading a book or three hardly makes you an expert on the motivations of two people or a group of people you've never met. And for reference, I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm saying you are chock full of shit.

ok. this isn't going to go anywhere. But I'm sure you realize that by your rationale because you haven't met these people either your feeling they had him abducted out of love, not control, boundary or abuse issues  makes you "chock full of shit" too.

[dishdutyfugitive]

You know, me and this femenon person give our theories on the matter, based on actually having read the books about the subject, unlike you. And, uh, yeah our theories are also based on our own experience; first hand "field experience" you could call it. We have expereinced parents who put their kids away in the 90s, discounting your theory that if the abduction took place in the 90s then the act didn't stem from abusive motivations. We have experienced parents who had their kids abducted and imprisoned with a profile that matches Aaron, and based on that, the Bacon's pre-program behavior, how they treated their other kids, their sense of their act now we have ideas about why they behaved as they did. Ultimately, at the very least, your theory that they made did what they did "out of love" is no less a theory than ours.

In response to our posts all you do is say "no youre wrong" and add an insult. You are kind of rude. I also read where you tell the mother whose kid died in Youth Care to stop whining and making it all about her to her face. I'm not sure where your sensitvity arises from, all of a sudden. Are you sure you aren't just "trolling" here? Makes me think.

We're  listening - don't let 1 person stop you. Bonafide contributions are the essence of fornits.

[psy]

I doubt that Aaron's parents thought he had a serious enough "drug problem" to warrant a full-fledged rehab. Rather, I think they were struggling with what they perceived to be a "Gateway" type situation.

Exactly.  They perceived danger that wasn't necessarily there.  Now would they have made the same decision if they were educated to know that pot is not a gateway drug (in most cases a terminus)?  Would they have made the same decision if the fear wasn't there?

[Anonymous]

I doubt that Aaron's parents thought he had a serious enough "drug problem" to warrant a full-fledged rehab. Rather, I think they were struggling with what they perceived to be a "Gateway" type situation.

Exactly.  They perceived danger that wasn't necessarily there.  Now would they have made the same decision if they were educated to know that pot is not a gateway drug (in most cases a terminus)?  Would they have made the same decision if the fear wasn't there?

Pot? Oh, you mean "bammy" or "funk" that's the "slang"  drug users are using nowadays to "project thier mastery of the subject matter." You know, drug users are always looking to project their "mastery" of drug using.

From gatehouse Academy website:
"Slang is a prevalent part of drug culture: It’s a form of self expression, method for discreet communication and way for drug users to project their mastery in the subject area. Street terms for drugs are often more relevant than medical terminology; words that don’t tend to roll off the tongue as smoothly, like diacetylmorphine and desoxyephedrine, aren’t popular among groups actually using the substances. Interpreting the way in which drug users converse may provide a better understanding of their lifestyles. The following is a condensed list of popular drugs and their corresponding slang terms, many of which come from the Indiana Prevention Resource Center:

Marijuana: Bammy, funk

Smoke marijuana: Blow a stick, blast a roach

Heroin: Dope, smack, skag
Inject heroin: Dip and dab

Smoke heroin: Chase the tiger

Heroin and cocaine mixture: Speedball, Belushi

Cocaine: Candycaine, weasel dust

Addicted to cocaine: Flaky

Inhale cocaine: Blow blue

Crack cocaine: Cat’s pee, crackers

Crack: Apple jacks

Smoke crack: Blast

Methamphetamine: Crystal, crank, tweek

Injecting methamphetamine: Bangin’ it in"

did people start calling pot "bammy" and forget to text me about that? This is gonna cause some confusion at my next "blow a stick" meeting.

[Che Gookin]

Crack: Apple jacks

how in the hell did they manage this one? I'm not going to ever be able to eat Apple Jacks ever again without laughing.