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Keeping Bad News on Search Engines
« on: December 16, 2008, 09:40:57 PM »
What can be done to get the true information about these destructive residential therapeutic facilities on search engine pages? These guys spend big bucks on companies like Reputation Defender, who bury the bad news about them. Meanwhile, they spam dozens, if not hundreds, of pages having links to their own stuff to bury the real news at how destructive they are.  Take any RTC discussed on Fornits, no matter how abusive, and see if any of the discussion about what really happens in those programs appears in a search engine. Dollars to donuts, it doesn't.

Maybe we need to create dozens, if not hundreds, of websites/links that link to the real information on Fornits about these programs to help make sure the truth shows up in the search engines. How can we defend the truth from the the Reputation Defenders?
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Re: Keeping Bad News on Search Engines
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 10:20:33 PM »
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What can be done to get the true information about these destructive residential therapeutic facilities on search engine pages? These guys spend big bucks on companies like Reputation Defender, who bury the bad news about them. Meanwhile, they spam dozens, if not hundreds, of pages having links to their own stuff to bury the real news at how destructive they are.  Take any RTC discussed on Fornits, no matter how abusive, and see if any of the discussion about what really happens in those programs appears in a search engine. Dollars to donuts, it doesn't.

Maybe we need to create dozens, if not hundreds, of websites/links that link to the real information on Fornits about these programs to help make sure the truth shows up in the search engines. How can we defend the truth from the the Reputation Defenders?

As long as it's a legit endeavor that doesn't involve a move into spamdexing, I think it's a fantastic idea to create websites for each and every program.  Rumor has it there is already something like that in the works (actually it's not such a big secret).

I'll let the forum in on what the big deal with the super sekret forum is:  We're basically doing what you suggested:  Creating websites for programs, as well as a central "hub" website for information on the troubled teen industry in general.  The only reason the forum is secret is because we don't want programs buying up the domains before we can or taking other steps to impede the progress of construction.  The element of surprise is critical in this case.  We've recently registered and started construction on several sites:

http://www.peninsulavillageexposed.com
http://www.darrington-academy-exposed.com/
http://www.midwest-academy-exposed.com/
http://spring-creek-lodge-academy-exposed.com/

and many more...

Basically the idea is just what you're suggesting, to pick programs that only have "one sided" information on a Google search (a great example is SCLA) and put more truthful information up there prominently for parents to see.  And unlike the industry's websites, we won't rely on "black hat" seo tactics (which benefit in the short run but are punished in the long run).  We plan on making the sites we're building long lasting and for the most part, self sustaining (where survivors will be able to manage the content of their own sites).

If I know you, and you'd like to be a part of this effort (which is more of a project... "alliance" was a very bad name and has been discarded), please contact me at [email protected] .  If this approach can work with Sue Scheff and a certain Southern California program, why not apply the same approach more widely?
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Re: Keeping Bad News on Search Engines
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 01:01:28 AM »
One of the reasons for keeping Fornits Wiki is to keep the bad news, so we always can start new threads here and on othe message boards.

We never knew when it comes in handy. I have an example from one of the other spft people. On a parents message board where he is undercover, a mother had to receive a comforting word because her son was kicked out of rehab maybe because the mother phoned the rehab all time askings questions or maybe because the boy left the campus against the rules.

So because our mole is the nice guy he is, he linked to the 450,000 settlement made by whitmore and Sue Scheff defense blog to prove that rehabs lie and try to down critical statemetns. Our mole ended his part with a statement about how good a mother she was because if they kicked the son out because of her phone calls the rehab properly had sometime to hide followed by "You are so a good mom and I pray for you. (((hug))) (((hug))) etc."

Well the mother thanked our mole for his support. She was happy because some could find evidence to support her. An evidence, which would have been hard to find in minutes, if we did not have access to the wiki database.

A week ago the users of the message board was the frighten by the "discovery" that certain boarding schools in Idaho had a past connecting them to a cult and that they used confrontation therapy. The parents didn't know.

We can bring the wiki and the bad news up in the top again. We can choose to adopt our own parent message board where we can act like a caring and supporting parent and while we pad them on the shoulders and send a lot of hugs, we can smuggle link after link into these message boards sending both the wiki and the links to the bad news up in the top. There is a world outside Fornits where parents made decision after decision based on poor facts. We knows the facts. There is an old saying: "If the Mountain wont come to Muhammed, then Muhammed have to go to the Mountain".

I have a message board which we have not manpower to cover: http://www.runboard.com/bnarcissisticabuserecovery

Who will volunteer? From the Wiki I have a Dr. phil show where he critizise "Casa by the Sea" without giving the name of the facility. Over at the antiwwasp forum a survivor identified the girl in the show as one she has been in "family" with. Its a start.
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