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Anonymous:
The Seed helped a lot of people too. Obviously there were some in positions of some authority who shouldn'y have been. I also don't think 11 year olds should have been there either. I was 18, had already lived on the street for 2 years and two winters in Connecticut sleeping on park benches in 17 degree weather and blizzards, and before that had been forcefully (literally) put in three successive mental institutions by my parents who thought, somehow, they were helping me, before returned to Boca Raton at age 18. If only you knew of the things I experienced and saw there. I'd been on heroin, cocaine, speed, mesc, mushroons, dropped liquid acid in my eyes as well as shot it, and all the rest, and the Seed did indeed help me save my life. Some of the people at the Seed later died as a result of the drugs they had done before. I respect the fact that many unpleasant things happened to some, but you should also respect the fact that it helped a lot of people. One person at this site has already called me a "fucking moron" for saying the Seed helped me. That person doesn't know a thing about me but judged me as a bad person for saying I was helped. For the person who was humiliated with naked beltings in your Seedling foster home, all I can say is that you'll have to get over it. How can I say that? How do I know what you went through? Well, the actions were different, but I was molested at knifepoint by a man when I was 12 years old, in Newport, RI. I had a choice after that, to let it get in my way for the rest of my life and use it as the best excuse for screwing up, or get over it and get on with my life. Kinda the same approach I used 6 years later when the courts put me in the Seed. I was there for 15 months. Respect isn't a breach of discipline, which means that people in a position of authority should respect those in their care, even if they are junior, and try their best to keep them from serious harm. I later used that philosophy during my navy career. When I was selected to staff after 8 months I practised what I preached and, like Clay, Pete, Susie and others, tried to put smiles rather than fear and terror in peoples faces. If that was not your experience in the Seed then all I can say is make the best of anything you may have learned that was positive and pay it forward. Leave the world a little better than you found it for having had you in it. The only negative thing I have never getten over was John Underwood, but that was for something that happened in 3rd grade back in upstate NY 42 years ago (1959)!

 :karma:

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---Scientology helped a lot of people too. Obviously there were some in positions of some authority who shouldn'y have been. I also don't think 11 year olds should have been there either. I was 18, had already lived on the street for 2 years and two winters in Connecticut sleeping on park benches in 17 degree weather and blizzards, and before that had been forcefully (literally) put in three successive mental institutions by my parents who thought, somehow, they were helping me, before returned to Boca Raton at age 18. If only you knew of the things I experienced and saw there. I'd been on heroin, cocaine, speed, mesc, mushroons, dropped liquid acid in my eyes as well as shot it, and all the rest, and Scientology  did indeed help me save my life. Some of the Scientology people later died as a result of the drugs they had done before. I respect the fact that many unpleasant things happened to some, but you should also respect the fact that it helped a lot of people. One person at this site has already called me a "fucking moron" for saying Scientology helped me. That person doesn't know a thing about me but judged me as a bad person for saying I was helped. For the person who was humiliated with naked beltings in Scientology  foster home, all I can say is that you'll have to get over it. How can I say that? How do I know what you went through? Well, the actions were different, but I was molested at knifepoint by a man when I was 12 years old, in Newport, RI. I had a choice after that, to let it get in my way for the rest of my life and use it as the best excuse for screwing up, or get over it and get on with my life. Kinda the same approach I used 6 years later when the courts put me in the Seed. I was there for 15 months. Respect isn't a breach of discipline, which means that people in a position of authority should respect those in their care, even if they are junior, and try their best to keep them from serious harm. I later used that philosophy during my navy career. When I was selected to staff after 8 months I practised what I preached and, like Clay, Pete, Susie and others, tried to put smiles rather than fear and terror in peoples faces. If that was not your experience Scientology then all I can say is make the best of anything you may have learned that was positive and pay it forward. Leave the world a little better than you found it for having had you in it. The only negative thing I have never getten over was John Underwood, but that was for something that happened in 3rd grade back in upstate NY 42 years ago (1959)!
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there, now do you think the post is more relevant?  Does one person's opinon about scientology legitimize the obvious cultic problems with the organization?  does your opinion about how the Seed "saved" you mean diddly shit to people who suffered for years, lost their families, jumped off the skyway bridge after 'graduating', and generally thought they were worthless after their experience?


get your head out of your anus and take a look at what type of animal you really were involved in.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Warrant" ---The Seed helped a lot of people too. Obviously there were some in positions of some authority who shouldn'y have been. I also don't think 11 year olds should have been there either. I was 18, had already lived on the street for 2 years and two winters in Connecticut sleeping on park benches in 17 degree weather and blizzards, and before that had been forcefully (literally) put in three successive mental institutions by my parents who thought, somehow, they were helping me, before returned to Boca Raton at age 18. If only you knew of the things I experienced and saw there. I'd been on heroin, cocaine, speed, mesc, mushroons, dropped liquid acid in my eyes as well as shot it, and all the rest, and the Seed did indeed help me save my life. Some of the people at the Seed later died as a result of the drugs they had done before. I respect the fact that many unpleasant things happened to some, but you should also respect the fact that it helped a lot of people. One person at this site has already called me a "fucking moron" for saying the Seed helped me. That person doesn't know a thing about me but judged me as a bad person for saying I was helped. For the person who was humiliated with naked beltings in your Seedling foster home, all I can say is that you'll have to get over it. How can I say that? How do I know what you went through? Well, the actions were different, but I was molested at knifepoint by a man when I was 12 years old, in Newport, RI. I had a choice after that, to let it get in my way for the rest of my life and use it as the best excuse for screwing up, or get over it and get on with my life. Kinda the same approach I used 6 years later when the courts put me in the Seed. I was there for 15 months. Respect isn't a breach of discipline, which means that people in a position of authority should respect those in their care, even if they are junior, and try their best to keep them from serious harm. I later used that philosophy during my navy career. When I was selected to staff after 8 months I practised what I preached and, like Clay, Pete, Susie and others, tried to put smiles rather than fear and terror in peoples faces. If that was not your experience in the Seed then all I can say is make the best of anything you may have learned that was positive and pay it forward. Leave the world a little better than you found it for having had you in it. The only negative thing I have never getten over was John Underwood, but that was for something that happened in 3rd grade back in upstate NY 42 years ago (1959)!

 :karma:
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I believe the person who was humiliated and tortured by having other teenagers whip him has committed suicide. Am I correct? I suppose he will not be getting over it. He is dead because he was tortured in the Seed. Another human the Seed murdered.

Anonymous:
The seed sucked. If you don't know that then your still brainwashed. I was there for over 5 years and still deal with the issues implanted upon me by Art, Libby, John, ginger, cookie, terry meyers, etc. I was made to have a total hysteractomy at the age of 17, sexually abused, mentally abused and brainwashed. I only new what "love and acceptance" was by Arts interest in me or his physical abuse. He kicked me once so hard I bled from my rectum for weeks. I was "down" when I was treated like crap and okay when I was given "smiles and pats" It sucked. I still have times when I question my position in life based on approval as a result of what happened there. I left in the dark of night to escape. When I did I was working with a "seedling" who went to the president of the company I worked for and told him EVERYTHING about me. Thus causing dissention and distrust on my job. Thankfully he allowed me to continue working and it evolved into a great ten year span where I proved the Seedling wrong. I have forgiven those evil people but I will never forget what they did to me. The names I was called the self degregation the dispicle way I was talked to. The emotional abuse was horrendous and I allowed it becuase I thought I deserved it for smoking pot. The seed and Art, John Libby and all the others hopefully will one day pay dearly for the lives they destroyed, affected and maimed. Anyone who  thinks that experience was good is crazy! I know I lived it. Thank God I am free today from that torture.

Happy and sane in NC.

Anonymous:
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John Underwear, For you to disrespect and denegrate MY experience at the SEED shows me just how mean spirited and screwed up you still are. You're not worth functional people's time! Blame your f*cking parents for puttying you in the SEED, and your own f*cking self for your own problems then and today. Take responsibility for yourself, you f*cking coward.

u r so full of shit it's coming out your ears, and so are the two other repliers. Your low self esteem still manifests itself today, and you still blame others for your problems. Oh waaaaaaa! "Feel sorry for me because I feel sorry for myself for a bad experience I had 35 years ago." What pussies. I didn't realize how much until now. What a loser! Get over it u weak assholes. Jeez, u guys must be something in life today huh? Waaaaaaaa.

Pathetic

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