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Froderik:

--- Quote ---The sheiks, to save their own power (and skins) have contributed in many ways to any movement that diverts their subjects away from wanting to overthrow them, and helps redirect it to aggression against the western countries.
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This seems to make sense...


--- Quote ---An additional reason Bin Laden hates us is that the Muslim holy city is Mecca, in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have let us use an air base there. Muslims consider this having infidels in their holy city.
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Ok, I don't doubt this...


--- Quote ---Then realize that they think their religion not only permits them to kill innocent people, but tells them to, and will reward them for it.
On top of that, there is the Yankee syndrome (my invention). Know why everybody hates the Yankees? Because they are the best, and they are at the top. Everyone has to hate the one at the top, because that makes them feel that they don't deserve it, even if they are the best. We don't like anyone who is better. We have to cut them down somehow. It goes on and on.
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One could argue that western religion also condones and encourages killing in the name of the Lord. Take the missionaries, for instance who went into South America and raised hell with the natives there. But these Muslim zealots are ALSO crazy. What should we do, sit back and wait and see what happens to us next? Yes indeed, our gov't has fucked up big time in the past, but SO WHAT?? What are we gonna do NOW? When 911 first happened, I was wishing that we'd just fuckin' NUKE those fuckers and let that be that...since then my hatred has mellowed a bit. I think $87 billion is extravagant. It probably is. I'm no war expert. Again, where do we, as a nation, go from HERE? Not "well we shouldn't have...blah, blah, blah" but "WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE GONNA DO NOW?!?!?!?  :eek:  :???:

Antigen:
Froderick, I agree with you completely. Not a nickle's worth of difference!

Also, not a whole lot of difference between the various theologies, imo. Sorry to all you good Christians who might take offense. But it has been my experience that religion is a potent and potentially dangerous, mind altering "drug". I've known devout Muslims who I would trust with my life and that of my kids and I've known Christians and Jews who are some pretty damned scary people!

Why are we killing thousands of people in Columbia and Bolivia right now? Oh, you didn't know we were killing people in Columbia and Bolivia? Here, read up on it at Narco News

I do believe that the folks calling the shots at SOCOM are in it for the same thing they're always interested in; geopolitical strategy. But most good Christian Americans are just not buying wars of conquest these days, so they don't sell it as such. Instead, they sell it as a war on certain drugs most hated by the religion addicts among us.

As de dawg chases his tail... :roll:
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will [America's] heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

--John Quincy Adams, Speech to the U.S. House of Representatives [July 4, 1821]
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