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Anonymous:
Just wondered if any old oldtimers were out there from the dates above. I started the Seed 4 days before Christmas 1971. After 8 or so months I was appointed to staff. I was on the program for 15 months. Remember Pete, Tommy, Clay, Susie Barker (passed away from cancer), Rick, Libby, Michele Barker, et al? Remember the visit from Robert Conrad? Jackie Gleason giving Art his limosine? Dade and Pinellas Seeds opening up? Wow! A strong and fruitful time of my life. Made boot camp 4 years later a piece of cake, and was a personal and professional foundation for my navy career as a Mustang, an officer that rises through the enlisted ranks and is awarded a commission. What began as a complete culture shock-and-awe became some of the best and inwardly peaceful  times of my life, and that was 37 years ago almost to the day. I can actually say now that when the time comes I will leave the world a little better for my having been in it. I wouldn't have been able to say that with the direction(s) I was going 38 years ago. Gives me a warm and fuzzie to find this forum. I lost my fear of the Seed and the hold it had on me a long time ago, but by then I had figured myself out pretty well and set out on a path to make things a little better for me and the world instead of being destructive. Good to hear from all of you. Even those who still fear the Seed. It's the commraderie that comes from a collective background. From being in the trenches and foxholes together.

 :peace:

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Warrant" ---It's the commraderie that comes from a collective background. From being in the trenches and foxholes together.

 :peace:
--- End quote ---

from being abused and fucked over!

Anonymous:
Noooo, that was NOT my experience, but thanks anyway for asking. The SEED still scares you. That's what happens to some who didn't try to get what they could out of it and ended up screwing themselves because of it.

 :waaaa:

FHOXX:
I Just wondered if any other oldtimers out there kept their own minds. I was at the Seed in 1971. My sister was appointed to staff, (she had no choice, for a long time) but she did survive. I ran twice, and when my sister finaly got out I had a big joint waiting for her. I also Remember Art, John, Pete, Tommy, Clay, Susie, Rick, Libby, Michele, Bill and alot more. Dade and Pinellas Seeds opening up? Wow!  (that just made more money for the group) An eye opening time of my life too. I also joined the Navy, after going to college, and it was very little help in my navy career as a squid (Saratoga). An officer that rises through the enlisted ranks and is awarded a commission is usualy a suck ass. It was 37 or 38 years ago. I can actually say now that when the time comes I will leave the world with eight of my children and eight grandchildren. I thank the gods my children all have good minds, children and careers, I wouldn't have been able to say that if I thought what the seed was doing was correct 38 years ago. Also it gives me a warm and fuzzie to see Art Barker close to death (and looking like shit). I have never had a fear of the Seed, and the hold it tried to have on me a long time ago, but by then I had figured myself out pretty well and set out on a path to make things  better for me and my family instead of screwing with others minds. It is good to hear from all of you. Even those who still fear the Seed. Now that Iv'e reached the end game it's good to look back. And I hope something can be done to stop people like Art Barker from hurting any more children in the future. I find it hard to believe there are still places like the seed in America?
Frank M.

Anonymous:
My time was much later. I came after the dade seed closed. I remember alot of those people though. The seed left me with terrible memories whoever says it was good is still sick! Art should be strung up for what he did to us. Sexual abuse, mental abuse etc. I can tell you it was not fun. I hated it. Brainwashing. I remember, John, Terry, Ginger, Cookie, Libby, Kenny, Shelly does anyone remember the girl with long black hair? She was really athletic? on Staff. I remember that I was supposed to be proud when I got to sit in the hallway and run phone call messages like a dog in a cage. UGH I am still haunted!

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