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looks like [email protected] is referring again
« on: December 15, 2008, 02:32:59 PM »
Quote from: "Kevin"
that is MY website, it has nothing to do with antiwwasp... the sad part is no one donated so now i have to resort to shit like this. its basically a link farm.. there are ads riddled throughout the page, but no direct referrals of any kind. i could care less what is on that page at this point, because i'm broke, no one cares about keeping the forum open anyway, that much is quite obvious. on the positive side, in every single one of those posts, there is a link back to antiwwasp... sorry it had to be this way, i tried doing it "the right way" first, but no one has any money or they just don't care... i hear about people taking trips to disneyland and going out of town, but antiwwasp is not a priority for most people or someone would've avoided fast food, or gone without a pack of cigarettes. i was asking for 5 dollars a person, and pam pulled the whole thing by herself. the only reason the forum is still running (hosting is paid for the next 52 days unless someone else contributes or my ads make money) is because pam forked out 100 bucks.

If you go to teenshelp.us, kevins  website, check out the ads on top of the page. They advertise various programs, and some of them even lead you to wasp programs after a few clicks. Paying for an anti wasp website, by advertising for wasp????? thats fucked up!!!  :on phone:  :timeout:
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2008, 02:52:33 PM »
Not that i'm a fan of Kevin (i'm not... i fucking hate him), teenshelp.us is actually a fake referral site.  It's actually a linkfarm / google bomb.  Mostly all the links post to antiwwasp.  what he's aiming for is his site showing up on a google search when somebody searches for "boarding school" or something similar. It's a dumb idea since Google punishes sites using such tactics to boost their rank.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2008, 03:03:06 PM »
Edit: forget what I wrote about.  let him burn.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2008, 04:24:23 PM »
Are you guys blind?? or trying to cover this up?

Look at the top right of every page. "Ads by yahoo"

The ads that are brought up were

http://www.troubledteens.com and discoveryranch.com


Click on troubledteens.com (the ad that shows up the most), and follow the links through. You will end up on a official wasp site within 3-4 clicks.

 ::puke::
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2008, 04:30:05 PM »
did a page reload.

This time it brought up

boardingschool.iAdd.net ... that brings up a list of links, one of which is a direct link to a wasp refering site. That's 2 clicks from Kev's website to wasp's!  :timeout:

&

AspenEducationGroup.com <--- Hey that one sounds a little familiar!  :rofl:
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2008, 05:02:15 PM »
Yep.  His own supporters are aghast.  From ANTIWWASP Lounge by our friend FirstResponder:


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kev i am so pissed right now

ok kev i want to know right fuckinging now are we refering again. i clicked on the teenshelp.us thing on the home page and got this. what the fuck is the deal  
"my parents say i have “bad behavoir” or something and want to send me to boarding school but i dont want to go to an uptight catholic one so if yall could help me find like a cool laid back one in california that still helps troubled teens that would be great(:

Find more info on Behavior Modification Programs Tags: Behavoir, Boarding Schools, Troubled Teen"




so what is the deal just a random add on the deal or are we referring again.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2008, 05:12:59 PM »
It could be solved by him if he choosed to move to a cheaper hosting solution. Instead all these attacks on other website, try offer solutions instead of just critisism.

His message board provides valuable information for Secret Prisons for teens as many other boards and while we dont refer, we dont judge either. The world is not black and white.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2008, 09:39:27 PM »
I frankly don't give a shit and hope it all works out for the members of antiwwasp.

It isn't any of my business and nor will I get involved.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2008, 10:17:32 PM »
Here I had just enjoyed my two NY style slices of pizza with extra crushed red pepper on them. Damn, you had to bring this up: http://www.teenshelp.us/2008/12/teens-boarding-schools/
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2008, 10:33:32 PM »
http://http://www.abundantlifeacademy.com/

while I still don't give a shit I'd have to say that if I wanted to get on my high horse and raise some hell I'd have plenty of hell to raise over that link above that appears on the page listed by iamartsy.

 :deal:

look at the fine print though..

don't care..

don't care..

don't care..

and yes

I just don't care.

my apathy completes me.. I'll check back in a week to see if I give a damn.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2008, 04:36:42 AM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Are you guys blind?? or trying to cover this up?

Look at the top right of every page. "Ads by yahoo"

The ads that are brought up were

http://www.troubledteens.com and discoveryranch.com


Click on troubledteens.com (the ad that shows up the most), and follow the links through. You will end up on a official wasp site within 3-4 clicks.

 ::puke::

Well. Ads are different in France.  Thanks for letting me know.  I'm cutting off his ad banner from Fornits and cutting off his links from troubled-teen-industry.com.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2008, 04:43:53 AM »
Quote from: "Oscar"
while we dont refer, we dont judge either.

I do.  If referrals aren't punished there is no other deterrent against them.

http://www.referralfreezone.info/index.html
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2008, 05:13:54 AM »
I think the site linking back to Anti-Wwasp is an incredible idea. That is, if the parents do get to the teenshelp page in the first place. It is a good decoy. Very good idea.

The Yahoo ads, I could do without though. That is a big bummer, especially after the history I have read about with this individual. Although I am very skeptical, I believe that he should be treated fairly and with a cautious approach.

I have attacked people here on Fornits before but I think I may have been wrong to do so. Not that I agree with what people have done but this mob mentality is an unhealthy thing. I didn't see it before but I am starting to see it now. Group attack is something I would like to not be a part of anymore. It isn't good for anybody, even if we are online. I feel bad that I did it at all.

I got a couple good ideas from this thread, but I am not ready to attack anyone over what has been presented. The big question is, did he get to choose the specific ads that would be on his page or was it a default to where the page draws a certain type of content for the ads? This could just be a bad decision and I am not convinced that this person has been purposely deceptive.

I agree with Oscar, whoever he is. At least he doesn't post anonymously. C'mon folks, have a little character and post as yourselves, it would be a little easier to hold valid discussions. (excluding any posts that might be legally actionable, of course).
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2008, 05:29:37 AM »
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This could just be a bad decision and I am not convinced that this person has been purposely deceptive.

I'm not making this decision blindly.  Ads exist for a reason: because people click on them... parents click on them.  Then parents end up on a program's website and we all know where it leads from there.  Kevin knows enough about the web to know that's the way it works.  I wish I could say "ignorance" at this point, but with his history, i'd say that's less than a 1% chance.
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Re: looks like [email protected] is referring again
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2008, 07:26:31 AM »
According to Kev, he's taken down his ads.  Can anybody stateside confirm that the yahoo ads are gone?
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