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DAYTOP Did Me Great Harm in the Long Run

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Inculcated:
LOL Thanks for clearing that up Ursus.
The first link from my quick search was posted incorrectly. I meant to cite this.
 My  point is that MRI’s were in use at that time (unlike the assertion made in the post I was responding to) and that that fact has not a damn thing to do with the fact that Daytop’s program mistreated SEKTO in relation to, but not limited to his having asperger's syndrome.

SEKTO:

--- Quote ---The larger point that you’ve missed here is that at Daytop no considerations toward developing an individual treatment plan for SEKTO were made. Daytop’s program by its very nature caused lasting harm to SEKTO in particular, because no considerations were made for his being non neurotypical. They targeted any differences in him as being character flaws and reduced them to damaging labels, while imposing on him a demand to accept these labels and conform.

My point is that MRI’s were in use at that time (unlike the assertion made in the post I was responding to) and that that fact has not a damn thing to do with the fact that Daytop’s program mistreated SEKTO in relation to, but not limited to his having asperger's syndrome.
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Well put, very well put as usual, Inculcated.  You are simply one of the most articulate individuals that I have ever come across.  Thanks for your support.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---I meant to cite this.
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An excellent citation and an easily understood description of MRI, I might add. And only two pages, albeit densely printed ones, for those concerned about a humongous download.


--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---My point is that MRI's were in use at that time (unlike the assertion made in the post I was responding to) and that that fact has not a damn thing to do with the fact that Daytop's program mistreated SEKTO in relation to, but not limited to his having asperger's syndrome.
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Far more pertinent might be when Aspergers Syndrome really entered the "common knowledge" database ... of clinicians in a position to make said diagnosis. Which wouldn't have been 'till the mid 1990s, assuming ya were even on the up and up with recent developments in the field. Chances are quite high that many people slipped through the cracks back then, and Sekto was one of them.

I think one of the key take-home points here is that, in all likelihood, given that our understanding of the human psyche is still evolving, there will always be syndromes and the like that will be missed, not understood, or simply not known. And programs utilizing therapeutic community methodologies, with their one-size-fits-all approach, by their very inherent nature, can potentially be quite damaging to some people. In some cases, why they are damaging to some people can now be understood. Or, at least, more understood.

Pertinent to all this is why would a program utilize or continue to utilize a one-size-fits-all approach in the face of so much overwhelming evidence of damage? If their avowed premise is to be believed, namely, that they want to help people, how can so much harm be tolerated? (This obviously a rhetorical question on my part, lol...)

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---You’re off on your time lines again Danny Bennison. Not that it would’ve helped much for a non neurotypical kid being immersed in Daytop’s program fifteen years ago.

Understandably your knowledge of Daytop’s intake and treatment practices is also limited.

The larger point that you’ve missed here is that at Daytop no considerations toward developing an individual treatment plan for SEKTO were made. Daytop’s program by its very nature caused lasting harm to SEKTO in particular, because no considerations were made for his being non neurotypical. They targeted any differences in him as being character flaws and reduced them to damaging labels, while imposing on him a demand to accept these labels and conform.
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Listen Inculcated before you run down the road with all your judgments about what I know and don't know, STOP. Deflate your huge ego and relax. I made one comment concerning MRI'S and I still stand by it. I happen to be in a family that just so happens to have (2) neuro-surgeons and 3 Cardiology specialist. So excuse me. I have a cousin that has Aspergers, which I grew up with. So that being said I asked and was told by my brother the Doctor, that MRI's twenty/ thirty years ago are not even close to what they are today. Analysis has progress the most from what he said.
Digital Imagery has come leaps and bounds.
Now your larger point that Daytop never considered a individual treatment plan (no-shit). Who did they do that with.
Did you get one when you were there. Last but not least intake policies ummmm...well if they didn't pick up his condition then we can assume they didn't have a policy. No different then any other center I was in, Oh that's right I was in Daytop.
 :shamrock:  :shamrock:
Danny....

Anonymous:
My care and support is with you for sure SEKTO. I am sorry if this was not shown. I hope to correct that now.
Danny.... :shamrock:

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