Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Daytop Village
DAYTOP Did Me Great Harm in the Long Run
SEKTO:
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--- Quote from: "SEKTO" ---Chuck, dude, put your tinfoil hat on and get back into your fallout shelter. WTF are you talking about?
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People are entitled to their opinions. I happen to disagree with him too with most of what he said, but that's just me. Personally, I think people are inherantly fucked up, greedy, and generally all around evil. It's human nature. I don't think that is going to ever change. I don't think it's a huge conspiracy... I think that's just how people are and how they tend to act when endowed with power over others. The trick is setting up a society where we can all get along. Personally I think that rests with a government in which the sole role is to keep one person from infringing on another person's rights... not to get off-topic...
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Yeah, you're right. I was annoyed is all, and beg your pardon.
Magnificent set me off. Classic DAYTOP stuff. "You're a failure and you aren't being honest. Even though DAYTOP may have used harsh methods some of us needed it so shut up with your phony whinin' ass, punk. You may have been picked on at DAYTOP a lot but get over it."
Sheez. It never ceases to amaze me, how callous and judgmental some people can be. Makes me sad, it does.
psy:
--- Quote from: "SEKTO" ---It never ceases to amaze me, how callous and judgmental some people can be. Makes me sad, it does.
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Human nature... education can help but that can't be forced. It becomes re-education at that point. Hopefully he'll read around and change his opinions, but that's up to him.
SEKTO:
Yes, education is the key, is it not?
And for another thing: I learned about my Asperger's much later on, way after DAYTOP.
This revelation was quite a relief, as I then understood that there is nothing wrong with me, that I was born this way (non-NT).
DAYTOP did little for me other than inculcate into my mind a sense that I was somehow "broken" and "bad."
Fuck DAYTOP.
psy:
--- Quote from: "SEKTO" ---Yeah, you're right. I was annoyed is all, and beg your pardon.
Magnificent set me off.
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Yeah, I know it's a natural reaction to snap back when somebody attacks you but that's not the only way to handle it. IMO, when somebody attacks you there are two options: escalate the conflict by attacking back, or attempt to diffuse it by remaining calm, asking questions, etc... 9/10 times it works in my experience. The exception is when a person is currently in a cult. That can be a lot more difficult. Ever tried talking to a Scientologist? Good luck getting a word in edgewise in between "WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES!".
Some program parents are almost as good. In one thread on toppix I was acused of being on drugs 8 times before I finally lost count... lol...
psy:
--- Quote from: "SEKTO" ---Yes, education is the key, is it not?
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That and encouraging a person to ask questions he might not have thought of before... get em thinking again!
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