Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Just A Thought
Anonymous:
One thing i think all parents need to realize is that these programs are claiming to have saved a childs life, when in fact they are really just taking credit for the natural evolution of a child becoming an adult. I have some sympathy for parents who had absolutely no idea about the abuse and controversy behind WWASP, but when you send your child to their programs knowing that they have had 4+ facilities shut down and many reports of abuse, than you are one selfish human being. Those speaking in favor of WWASP will look like the fools 10 years from now, just like all the others who have taken part in similar mind twisting, bank account draining cults. Wake up America, and take responsibility for your child, and the mistakes you made while raising them!
Not only am i convinced WWASP will be out of business in the next 2 years, i believe all major players will be imprisoned for profiting off the abuse and warehousing of Americas youth.
Anonymous:
I would much rather my loved ones made the wrong choices, than forever had the ability to make choices taken away by the torturers at a gulag program.
As for admitting they need help, that is not enough because they chose the wrong help. The easy way for them. The helpers that promised that all they had to do was do exactly what they were told and everything would be fine. Nothing is ever that fine. Nothing in life is ever so absolute but the progrsmd make it seem like it can be.
All these program parents always talk about having faith in the program or faith in G-d. Well the G-d I hear of gave us something called free will. Free will is nothing if not the ability to choose for ourselves our actions and beliefs. WWASP, CEDU, PCS, and their ilk take that away. They are not therapists, or trained to work with kids, or even licensed to do what they claim to do. They are certainly not doctors who have sworn to do no harm. Read the Hippocratic oath or the oath of Maimonedes and tell me if you think that is what these programs live up to. They cannot even approach such lofty aims since they cannot even succeed in passing such comparably humble standards of behavior as the declaration of human rights or the geneva convention or the convention on torture.
Why do parents turn away from conventional medicine and psychology to these quack programs and gulag torture chambers? Because medical professionals and therapists have a duty to their patient, not his parents. Parents can't send their kid to a psychologist or psychiatrist with the instructions "I want my kid to obey and love me and don't send him home till he is fixed."
Sometimes a parent has to recognize that the time has come to let their kid go their own route and make their own mistakes.
Hindsight is 20/20 but then what about those 100 or so parents who have had their kids die in the custody of these programs including CEDU and WWASP. What about the thousands who never recovered from their ordeal and chose suicide?
I still have yet to meet a satisfied wwasp student who has been out of the program for a few years. It seems a lot of these satisfied parents don't even know where their kid lives or otherwise have very little contact with them.
Anonymous:
Thats exactly right i know severerl survivors of a abusive program near me. The kids left home the day they turned 18 and never looked back. The funny thing is that some will never forgive their parents here is what few survivors of a abusive program has said to there parents:
--------From: "Angela"----------------------------
My mother and I got into this argument a couple of years ago. We were arguing about my step-thing and how she'd never see him for what he was, the sick son-of-a-bitch who needed severe help. She told me I needed to respect her as my mother, so I told her to be my mother. She stopped being that more than a decade ago when she chose to ship me off. Some parents would say they'd tried everything and everything had failed so they were desparate. Problem is, that certainly wasn't the case with my mom. She let her husband talk her into getting rid of me because it was easy. She was looking for a way out of the responsibility of being a parent. I've told her my feelings to her face. She had to write an autobiography for her college courses she's taking to get "life experience" credit. When she came to the part about MP, she said, "After numerous attempts to run away, we found her with different boyfriends everytime, we decided we had to act drastically. I was forced to send her away. This was a very hard time for me." Yeah, ok. Fiction shouldn't count as college credit unless you're studying to be a novelist. I left the house for three hours, once, and was visitng a friend. They shoved me into the county youth shelter for two weeks and then sent me off. And I'm sorry, but I don't see what's so hard about giving up your responsibility to some hillbillies to finish raising your child. That's the easy way out.
------From: "Rebekah"-----------------------------
Me and my mom have that very same argument!
--------From: "Tabitha"---------------------------
My mom says that she had no other choice than to send me to MP, but
she admits that it is a horrible place. I tell her that if she had
been more of a parent she never would have had to send me away. But
that is an argument that never seems to end.
-------From "Shawna"------------------------------
Be lucky for your Mom. Mine still loves MP. My sister & I told her
about this site, the horrible experiences that some of ya'll have
had & how MP is listed as a cult on many sites & her response
was "Oh, well. Those kids got what was coming to them." She thinks
that b/c I'm an ok person for the most part now that it's all thanks
to MP. I do admit that w/out going there I would probably be in
worse shape then I am now. But that wasn't the "turing point" of my
life by any means. Like most of the ppl on this site, I did what I
had to do to get by & there for a while I actually bought into their
crap. Hell, I remember telling my 70 Grandmother she was going to go
to hell if she wasn't saved!!!
LOL! But thank God I'm relatively normal now (not that I have any
CLUE what normal is)!!
~Shawna
FaceKhan:
Worrying about being normal is like staring down at your feet to make sure you are walking the same as everyone else.
There is no normal life, there's just life.
oops that anon post above the one before this one is mine.
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No greater love hath a man, then he lay down his life for his brother, not for millions, not for glory, not for fame, for one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.
[ This Message was edited by: FaceKhan on 2003-08-03 13:10 ]
Anonymous:
yes, well, i want to hear from the kid you put through wasp. Thats who i want to hear from. you can belief what you want, what you need to believe, but i want to hear what's said from the person who was there. and YES, i believe what my son says, i believe him. I believe him more so than the people who ran the place he was at. I believe that he was threatened with sexual assault by a staff member, i believe he did not have enough to eat, i saw the evidence myself in his drastic weight loss, i BELIEVE that he was physically abused, I SAW THE BRUISES.
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