Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Benchmark Young Adult School / Benchmark Transitions

Dearest Whale Ass/Sheri of Benchmark:

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Che Gookin:

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--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" --- on Page 2 lines 20 to 25 you claim Mike didn't have permission to film the students and that he was heckling them. First, and you already know this as I'm certain the police told you losers this, Mike is allowed to film what he pleases as long as he can see it from public. Please clear up this little misconception/half truth.
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Another thing they neglected to mention.  Before we left, I told them that I would be blurring out the faces of students in any video that was published.  I also find it hard to believe they give a damn about student's privacy given that they published Marcos's full name on the internet as well as E. Block.  I wonder if Benchmark told all the people they had sign declarations they would publish them as spiteful propaganda on the internet if they lost.  As soon as I read those declarations, I told my lawyers: "they're going to publish these if they lose".  And they did.

Now I have that shit, which may or may not be protected by litigation privilege, attached to my name.  Just shows what sore, childish, losers they are to resort to false attacks on the character of others to cover their own indefensible hides.  Assholes.
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Yeah I remember mike telling that one dude he'd blur out all the faces. The guy had full arm tats and looked like they hired him right out of rehab.

Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: "JLGJL" ---Marcos’s mom shows what’s wrong with the 'just get the info out there and people will stop sending their kids away' notion.
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Those people are few and far enough between that they don't matter.  The vast majority of the parents would not send their kids away if they knew the full extent of what that entailed.  "vast majority" is enough to send any business to the bottom of the ocean.
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I think that's overly-optimistic. And even if that's true a "boutique" industry will continue. Young adults need to be recognized as human and protected by law.
As long as murder is legal, even if people are made to understand that it hurts the other person, they will continue doing it if it suits them. You need legal consequences for this to end.


Good work, Psy, for working on this! You know, I've never read a complete 'testimony' about your stay at Benchmark. Now might be the time to put this together.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "ddjj" ---I think that's overly-optimistic.
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Ok.  Any explanation of why Benchmark's enrollment has dropped from 60+ in 2006 to 13 in 2008 according to Benchmark's claimed damages?  I see it as a proof of concept for the "education approach" which can and should be repeated with other schools.


--- Quote ---And even if that's true a "boutique" industry will continue.
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Not if it's not profitable.  When the enrollment drops enough, and enough expenses pile up...  Even if there are a few desperate/crazy parents left, it's still not enough to support a program.  If they all are targeted in this manner...  well.  there goes the industry.  It would take a lot of research and work, but it can be done.  If they can build em all, we can fuck em all up.


--- Quote ---Young adults need to be recognized as human and protected by law.
As long as murder is legal, even if people are made to understand that it hurts the other person, they will continue doing it if it suits them. You need legal consequences for this to end.
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I'd agree with that, but that point is a long way away.  Until that time, however, there are other ways to skin the cat.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "ddjj" ---I think that's overly-optimistic.
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Ok.  Any explanation of why Benchmark's enrollment has dropped from 60+ in 2006 to 13 in 2008 according to Benchmark's claimed damages?  I see it as a proof of concept for the "education approach" which can and should be repeated with other schools.


--- Quote ---And even if that's true a "boutique" industry will continue.
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Not if it's not profitable.  When the enrollment drops enough, and enough expenses pile up...  Even if there are a few desperate/crazy parents left, it's still not enough to support a program.  If they all are targeted in this manner...  well.  there goes the industry.  It would take a lot of research and work, but it can be done.  If they can build em all, we can fuck em all up.


--- Quote ---Young adults need to be recognized as human and protected by law.
As long as murder is legal, even if people are made to understand that it hurts the other person, they will continue doing it if it suits them. You need legal consequences for this to end.
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I'd agree with that, but that point is a long way away.  Until that time, however, there are other ways to skin the cat.
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I c what youre saying, but i'd guess that a partial explanation is the economy and that benchmark targets adults. I think that's a dif. market than parents of teens (though there's an overlap). The adult attending the school has to make the choice to go there and therefore gets to participate in the decision of whether he wants to go. Look at WWASP its still going and it's famously bad. But yes, getting the truth out (though you'd think the truth would be self-evident to anyone who pays to have their kid abducted) makes a difference.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "jlfgy" ---I c what youre saying, but i'd guess that a partial explanation is the economy and that benchmark targets adults. I think that's a dif. market than parents of teens (though there's an overlap).
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Question: how many of those kids you think grew up in program?  shit...  Marcos told me he had been in program for nine years prior to Benchmark.


--- Quote ---The adult attending the school has to make the choice to go there and therefore gets to participate in the decision of whether he wants to go.
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Benchmark accepts minors.  See their admissions forms.  Also, a choice is not really a choice unless it is fully informed.

See informed consent:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent

Does Benchmark represent itself accurately and honestly to the public?  Do your research on that.

There are a whole host of issues here that make the distinction you're trying to draw not as simple as it would appear at first.  Marcos asked for his passport back (his property by law).  Did they give it to him?  no (see Pinedo Decl.).  What is and is not legal does not matter if a person believes they have no rights (Benchmark told me that I had signed away my rights on admission to program).  I didn't know it wasn't possible, and certainly didn't remember signing anything like that, but at the time that didn't matter.  That's just one more way.

There are thousands of ways of keeping people prisoners without bars.  Cults do it all the time.  The fact that programs like WWASP even need bars and physical abuse shows the Mormons are relatively behind the times in terms of their brainwashing. CEDU is second generation thought reform, bitches!


--- Quote ---Look at WWASP its still going and it's famously bad. But yes, getting the truth out (though you'd think the truth would be self-evident to anyone who pays to have their kid abducted) makes a difference.
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The information is out there.  It just needs a little guidance.

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