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Froderik:
Actually, I miss Ginger, too. I didn't always agree aith her, but at least she was real, and I know WHO SHE IS. As far as Carey, believe it or not, I don't think everything she says is a crock. But it is very frustrating to try to get her to be on the level about things sometimes.

I want to tell you - all of you anons on both sides must have some reason for posting here, unlike me. Actually I do/did have a reason. to shut you all up BY getting SOMEONE to come out and state the truth. Carey seemed like she was FOS. I went for it. It was like talking to the tar-baby, at least that was my experience. And her tone is almost abrassive as mine is at times, lol. Hence my increasingly obnoxious posts and threads that followed (2-3 months ago) So you anons must have a reason for posting here AND being anonymous. You all are with different organizations and you care what people think about what they read on this forum...why do you spend so much time debating all of this litigious stuff? Why can't there be a separate place where you all can dothis so that the rest of us don't have to see it?  :???:

Anonymous:
Yeah, Ginger is definitly missed and it pisses me off that certain people had the audacity to ever say an unkind word about that lady because she is a bona-fide (for real) humanitarian, unlike these wanna-be puritarians and FOS program parents. Anyway, not to worry.  The truth is marching on and Froderick, it's good you are onboard with keeping it real. Sooner or later, the house of cards is gonna fall because everybody in their own way has helped to chip away at the facade weakening the foundation, the very nuts and bolts of the TEEN HURT INDUSTRY.  So carry on, anons and non-anons. We ain't outta the trenches yet!

Anonymous:
Oh, regarding the litigious issues.  Personally, I agree with Froderick.  It would be helpful to have a separate forum though I think the question was asked before and Ginger had expressed some doubt as to whether that was a viable suggestion. Since some people (myself included) have taken the time to study the legal issues at-hand and find them to be highly worthy of discussion and debate, perhaps Ginger will reconsider adding a forum, if nothing else, to keep these issues at the forefront instead of on the back burner.  Frankly, there is good reason to pay attention to what is going on in the legal arena (but of course, the litigants know that, which is why they probably would object to a separate forum).

 :smokin:

Anonymous:
Well, sorry you find it annoying.  It's too bad there's nothing we can do to put a flag in the topic heading so those of you who don't want to read the legal threads can know which ones to avoid.

I'm not with any program.  My motivation for being here is I knew someone who got shipped off for no good reason and was appalled to find out that it was legal.  Then it turned out that we couldn't do anything to get her out and the only constructive thing we could do was to get involved and try to get some safeguards and oversight in place so it wouldn't happen to anyone else.

I'm on Fornits because it's the best site I've found on the net for breaking news on the industry.

I'm anon because my friend's family is rich and if a chance comes up to help her I don't want to risk not being able to because their lawyer manages to make hay out of something I said on the internet---paranoid, I guess, but *not* taking the  risk is the only thing left I can do for her.

I don't know if it will help, but from now on if I'm talking about something legal, then either in the topic or subtopic I'll put (legal)---it should make it easier for those of you who want to skip over it.

Anonymous:
Good Idea, Anon.  No harm in marking posts LEGAL if that's what the issues are about.  I don't think Froderick cares if people are interested in the legal stuff, he probably just wishes they would carry on their discussions in a forum that is reserved for just that purpose.  God knows we could all use a little direction (just kidding, I swear!!).  Anyway, it's an idea.  Personally, I think it would be helpful to have a clearinghouse of legal issues, past, current and future, that are related to the industry, at large.  That way people doing research or just interested in following a case would know where to find the info.  A separate forum would probably not be all that productive, due to concerns about privacy and pending motions, court rulings, etc.

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