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Cedu as Prison and work-camp/Gulag; REBELLION - impossible?

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Anonymous:
Cedu was not a prison:

"It was a place full of love, and sure there were some hard times, but, I learned important lessons there."


Cedu was a prison:

The place was a prison, quite literally. There was no liberty to speak, read, listen to, sing, or talk about - or think about - most topics of natural interest and importance to teens in an school setting. There was no liberty of movement. There was only the small illusion of liberty, in the tiny spaces where it could be stolen -

* Smushing stood in for age-appropriate intimacy, and dating (it also stood in for sex, for the true pedophiles on staff, who cuddled gleefully with the teens)

* Raps stood in for appropriate therapy - but it was a psychotic, highly destructive, invasive and self-annihilating form of public torture and, frankly, mind-control (Raps actually were the center, the vortex of the Cedu control process, that created both the intense fear, and the massive, undirected cathartic release - adn then build-up to the next, the next, the next - Raps were, entirely, discipline, and control of the student population).

* Propheets stood for *magic*. Magic cedu growth and development. They took the place of actual, normative, age-appropriate academic and personal growth and achievement. They were charades of misappropriated cultural detritus, mixed and matched with more raps, more shame, humiliation, control, abuse, and maybe (maybe not) catharsis. They were supposed to be *magic* and took the place of actual achievement.

But strip away these very hollow pillars, and what is Cedu?

It was a prison, where students did physical labor all the time, day and night. This redirects the Cedu schools into a different category - GULags, work-camps, prisoner-of-war camps.

Could you leave? Is it appropriate then to use the term "prisoner?" I think it's absolutely correct. What was the punishment for leaving? A week in the box, like in the 'great escape?" More or less. More, very often.

But, add the Cedu *magic*, the runny dribbly nosed squealing and screaming, crying and puking, and suddenly it's.. "all the love in the room."

"All the love in the room." That's a phrase used so often at the place. "Can you feel all the love in the room?"

Holy Shit! We were suckered, sucked in, because... because... because we were teens, with little to no understanding of law, of civil rights, and most or many of us came from places that had already accustomed us to some real abuse. I speak personally here, and say it was so for me.



REBELLION.

Why was rebellion at Cedu so hard to achieve? It is my remaining Cedu dream, or nightmare, that I am there, fully aware of who I am and what Cedu is, and that I cannot, cannot, cannot raise the students, or several students, to leave, to protest, to strike back against the brutality - to temporarily incapacitate a more abusive staff member, and then to call media, television, authorities, and pull attention to the place, and the practices of the mad-hatter staff.

That is the nightmare - that I cannot find a quiet moment, a secret moment, with any student, to tell them (whispering) "this is a cult".

"What?"

"This is a CULT. This is not right. We are being abused. We must get enough of us together to refuse to participate, to liberate the phone, to call out to law enforcement, to civil services, to KTLA NEWS, for Christ's sake."

Can you imagine the look of sheet-white translucent fear and confusion on the face of a programmed Cedu student, when hearing these words from a peer?

"I have to go COP-OUT!!!"


That's the expected response.

dishdutyfugitive:
That's a pleasant thought.

If we'd have lined up single file and just marched our asses down the road - every single one of us at once.

Had they tried to physically stop us it would have been assault. And when the cops showed up we could have said, "we, the entire student body have a little secret to let you in on. The place is assbackwards, it's run by whack jobs and they're violating a handful of laws and fundamental human rights. We request a public defender and demand a formal investigation immediately".

Anonymous:
I have thought about these scenarios at length, and, in the editing of the doc, often.

I have come to the conclusion that the greatest pain surrounding the place comes from the cognitive dissonance between what we experienced - GULag + cedu *magic* bullshit - and what we were told "hopes hang high, dreams never die, love, inner child, me, smush, cuddle with perverts" puke, barf, etc.

The reality that underlies the fear-dreams that 'Castle' was describing on a previous thread is that we were not permitted to simply name the place for what it was:

Prison. A prison.

If we'd been able to do this, we might have been able to grapple with the notion of 'rights' - ("even prisoners have rights!" somebody would have decided).
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But, under the rubric and weight of the many thousand emotional manipulations, lies, confusions, misdirections, rules, "agreements raps, bans, smushes, contracts," etc, we were managed, flummoxed, betrayed, manipulated, squeezed into a tiny bit of anti-intellectual space that actively forbade us from seeing reality -

"We are in prison on a mountaintop with perverts and drug addicts. I am calling the police. I will not listen to these people. I am calling the news networks. I will scream bloody murder or defend myself in any and every way possible if they try to put me in a box, stuff me into a table, or take away my civil rights."

That, that would have been the correct, liberty-loving, human response.

[i]But, that's the beauty of doing this to children [/i]- to abused children, isn't it? You can strip them naked - literally - this was done to me three times - and figuratively -all rights of a US citizen removed, by one Guy Bonanno, Rudy Bentz, Doug Kim Brown, Mel Wasserman, Jim Johnson, Laurie Saunders, Jill Bentz, Pam Abell, Bill Valentine, Martin Wiens, Bruce Boslough, Steve Laird, Donna Dillman, Patrick Stambusky, by one

Charles E. Dederich? By anyone who grossly irresponsible parents are willing to allocate their parental duties, and their children's rights to...

But, that would've been the correct response. And it would be still, today, in the places where this is happening. This issue needs media attention, without a doubt.

Anonymous:
most cults,it has been my observation,tend to play "divide and conquer" amongst the members.This is how the cult "leadership" keeps its power,if the members are all worried about being turned in by other members(or ,fighting amongst themselves) then a "plot" or a unified front of opposition,has no power.
 Since we are close to an election, I will advance this idea one step furthur. The multi party system,special intrest groups,and the divergence of ideas within our own population,not to mention religion,race,gender,and a laundry list of other factors,will always preclude a unifeid front DEMANDING any real accountability from our leadership.So change? Not really. Is our government a cult? Again, not really,but by default this is how america works against itself,by a sort of "back door " version of that tactic.

try another castle:
Cedu is not a prison. Nor is any other TBS facility.

Despite the fact that prison can be rough to the point of being deadly, prisoners have more rights than any child in a TBS. They also have one of the most valuable rights of all: autonomy.

Cedu is a cult, at that point in the cult's evolution where members are prohibited from leaving. Mind control and coercion are used to keep most people in line and complacent.


What prison do you know is like that?


And as for the facilities who use more physically punitive measures (i.e. physical torture) which are bizarre and horrifying in their own right, those places aren't prisons either. They are gulags. Same logic: prisoners have rights, gulag detainees do not.

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