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PV Counselor does a dance!
« on: October 02, 2008, 02:54:06 PM »
PV counselor Lauren Messer shakes her booty.  ::OMG::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSe4Ot35_VQ

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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 03:15:29 PM »
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PV counselor Lauren Messer shakes her booty.  ::OMG::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSe4Ot35_VQ


Doesn't taking that video violate HIPPO laws?
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 03:54:30 PM »
Quote from: "ZenAgent"
PV counselor Lauren Messer shakes her booty.  ::OMG::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSe4Ot35_VQ

 :jerry:  :jerry:

Downloaded and archived locally.  Mwahaha!
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2008, 04:11:47 PM »
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Quote from: "ZenAgent"
PV counselor Lauren Messer shakes her booty.  ::OMG::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSe4Ot35_VQ

 :jerry:  :jerry:

Downloaded and archived locally.  Mwahaha!

Thanks!  The PV Shuffle, preserved for posterity.
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 05:38:55 PM »
Doesn't it remind you of the truffle shuffle from the movie Goonies?
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 07:31:18 PM »
How on earth did you find this zen? However you did it, thanks and congrats!

Lauren Messer also has a bunch of photos on her facebook page, here's a link to one of her holding a dog named "Delilah":
http://http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v140/120/37/9405076/n9405076_35596506_985.jpg

Also, in the following vids from the same youtube account there is one guy they call "Scott" in a description that I photographed at the protest:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7PHawcBhQ
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsBArvNvKlk
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7qO5xGYlNE
Here's the photos I got of him at the PV protest:
http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2904952584_d9bf429d5d_b.jpg
http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2904183133_f4fc27f20e_b.jpg
http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2904179925_75e6b98d59_b.jpg
The girl with him might be this one from another video from the same account:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCUusMgobbc
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 11:20:10 PM »
she actually left a pretty nasty comment on Kris's video a few days ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih1Ei8G3HtA

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Oh please, ya'll need to grow up. I'm an alumni from PV, was there for 16 months and have been out for over a year now. It completely turned my life around for the better once I finally decided to leave behind my self-pity and stop making excuses. Haha, abuse XD I think everyone says that when they first go there...I played the victim card for a while too, guys. It seems to me that you all are still stuck in it; also along with some childish grudges. So good luck with that!

yeah, that looks like her in your photograph
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2008, 04:30:34 PM »
Wow.. what you have here is one of those suck ups who toadied up to staff and had things alot easier is my guess.
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 12:03:56 PM »
Looks like "staygoldxx" closed their youtube account. Wonder if PV had a part in that.. Oh well, I had already downloaded those videos awhile ago!
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 12:07:10 PM »
Quote from: "act.da"
Looks like "staygoldxx" closed their youtube account. Wonder if PV had a part in that.. Oh well, I had already downloaded those videos awhile ago!
And here it is for those who want it:

http://www.fornits.com/pv/MesserDance.mp4

Methinks it needs a remix.
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2008, 03:11:45 PM »
more nasty comments on You Tube by PV success stories...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih1Ei8G3HtA
and here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3o4kt3x ... re=related

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wow i recognize alot of the staff! shows how people care enough to stick around! screw u ZenAgent! those r great people!

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u all r idiots. that place saved my life. yea i agree with staygoldxx cause i too had that same outlook toward pv wen i got there but i see now that that place helps people WILLING TO HELP THEMSELVES!!! so u that were troubled while u were there obviously shouldnt blame PV for ur mistakes in life and get urselves back on track. i have had friends both live and die after that place but we all make our own decisions!

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u r a fucking idiot dude! i was at PV for 15 months and they got me off my drugs. and all those people u named on there espesially one with the initials D.H was my good friend! he has been notified and u r a royal fuck head!


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Stupidity might have had his tongue when he made those comments on YouTube as well.
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2008, 04:41:30 PM »
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more nasty comments on You Tube by PV success stories...

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wow i recognize alot of the staff! shows how people care enough to stick around! screw u ZenAgent! those r great people!



Sounds sweet coming from a cheerleader.  What staff does he remember?  Is he talking about Dominic Hawranke?  DH?  Anyone who picked up a newspaper or watched local news in Charlottesville VA when Hawranke was on trial knows about his murderous homie. He was charged as an adult.  So...tell him to vent on the mass media.

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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 07:45:11 PM »
Well, I've been holding my tongue for quite a while on this, but I guess I just really need to say my piece here.
I am "staygoldxx" from all those years ago. Basically, I wanted to let you guys know I've deprogrammed and found out a lot of terrible things about PV that I wish I honestly hadn't sometimes. However, when I posted that, not only was I only 18 years old but had been out of the village less than 2 years. You would think, considering how much you guys seem to know about the mass indoctrination, thought reform, and brainwashing tactics that the village enforced, that there would be a little more thoughtful consideration before you start bullying and harassing others, especially us alumni because we are all victims of terrible institutionalized abuse - some people who suffered for nearly two years on the inside...I am in touch with well over 30+ alumni from all eras of PV, and quite honestly it pains me to see how much some struggle on a day to day basis. And how much it hurts to see them where I was so many years ago, thinking the village had "saved my life". I didn't start deprogramming until the summer of 2009, where for the most part I hadn't even the knowledge anything bad or illegal happened around me constantly. It was nothing short of completely nightmarish - I barely slept for years and constantly used drugs, which was never a problem for me before the village. I was a "behavioral" kid, which honestly I think may have been worse than simply having drug problems, cause they used one size fits all treatment...I am doing great now, even with the PTSD diagnosis and terrible issues deriving from drug use.

 Anyway, how dare you guys judge someone's experience at the village, saying "maybe she kissed up to staff"...ever consider that that was the only way to even get at least 10% less punishment? Anything to make it a little easier, I was willing to do...And no matter how much I complied, how much I progressed...I still was horribly abused and punished on a daily basis, mostly through group punishment or being accused of things I never even did. Especially coming from some of you who were never actually patients there, it's nothing short of straight out rude. I've read pretty much every thread on this board, and to me it seems there is no difference between most of you bullies on here and  the way I was bullied at PV by staff and patients. You are one in the same. Not only have I seen you guys defame innocent people's names on here, you all seem to have this ridiculous rage where you target the most helpless of the people- those who were victimized.

A few years ago when those "protests" were being posted, I was harassed by people I'd never even met, and didn't even know by name. And the results of your one man protest, Act.Da? It only gave Peglar an oppourtunity to seem even more caring, and he rationalized why you felt the way you did...he even invited you into the group to talk, which I thought you'd take up if you wanted to make a real statement or impression - PERFECT oppourtunity to start refutting Peglar's BS, but no...you'd rather be weird, passive, and hide behind a camera and simply take pics. Then post videos of me and other alumni and staff without our permission; hell most of them didn't even know that video was there! You had a zero % impact...not one family pulled their kid or took you seriously. They thought you were just a sad, mixed up kid.  Then I had to deal with guys finding my youtube, and then posting all my videos so you could make fun of them...what, are you guys all 12 years old? It struck me as just sad you felt the need to poke fun at pretty much nothing.

You guys talk a lot, claiming you want to take action and change things....so why aren't you targeting the people MOST responsible - like the fucking clinical directors and corporate people funding and keeping this place alive still? It always seemed nothing short of absurd to me that you guys targeted alumni---so useless, any alumni that hasn't deprogrammed is just gonna laugh and fight you, and will get you no where. Everyone takes time to heal in their own way, and some never deprogram cause they want to believe bad things didn't happen to them. Some it takes a few years at the very least. It's an extremely sensitive area for them for obvious reasons, and no one should ever be pushed into deprogramming, the way I was later that year.

To me, when I needed info like the stuff posted here (cause it helped me discover a lot of disturbing details) I thought maybe I'd find alliances, people who actually feel the same that I do about the village. But I thought wrong, cause there's no help or real care here, just a bunch of angry bullies with no direction...I apologize only to the few posters I've seen that really care and have been nice. So, I am fighting my fight alone, and going through legal things in the future without the support of even my own parents, who STILL think PV was an ok place. Honestly, I don't even know if I'll get a response to this cause this place has all but died..but to tell you the truth, I'm kind of happy this board isn't as active :/ I'm posting this in the attempt to at least expose some of the PV-esque tactics some posters are apparently into...ironic considering you all say you don't approve of those things... Sad, I have a bunch of research, documents, and info I could add about things never mentioned here, but no one here would actually do anything with it.
If you're fueled by so much angry, get out and actually do something about it...like really do something. Leave the victims out of this, not a single alumni or even staff for that matter has even bothered half as much as you guys have to harass, defame, and bother them.
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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2012, 05:01:05 PM »
Becky -


Becky wrote:
"but to tell you the truth, I'm kind of happy this board isn't as active" -

PV hasn't existed in four years.  Have you noticed?  You may well have awakened the board, though.  Didn't know PV boosters were still pushing the program carcass around.

I'm very familiar with what went on in PV, and I'm in closer contact with more than thirty PV survivors.  You are no mystery to me.   You're coming back FOUR YEARS later to piss and moan about what was up while Peninsula Village was open? ("Well, I've been holding my tongue for quite a while on this, but I guess I just really need to say my piece here").  Why criticize others sharing about PV who didn't have the experience you did?  You played along perfectly with PV's game, even after treatment, and you were very good at getting the "10% less punishment".


Becky wrote:
"Anything to make it a little easier, I was willing to do..."

Not something many people would admit to.  While you snitched on your peers to save yourself, someone had to take the consequences for your "confrontation".  This forum is for those who actively fought against what their intelligence told them was absolutely wrong, and they were drugged, beaten, and mechanically restrained for it.  Considering your "anything to save my ass" policy... how many of your peers were abused by you narcing ("confronting") them?  You have a lot to ponder about accountability - not PV's "perfidy for perks" accountability.  Your claim of being "deprogrammed" is premature.

That young man, Act. Da - had the balls to stand out there alone and protest what he knew was wrong.  You really expected Act.Da to allow Pegler and a room full of PV people like you - "Anything to make it a little easier, I was willing to do" - to grill him when he was all alone?  In the middle of a sales pitch for PV, you would have attacked Act.Da.  Becky, you would have led the charge against him.  Act.Da filmed the young man "suggesting" he attend a group - and that guy just wanted to get close enough to identify him, and he did.

He started discussing Act.Da's records from PV on the "Peninsula Village Alumni" Facebook.  They were getting the information from a PV counselor named Costner.  See why staff and former patients shouldn't mix?  You go right back to PV games and gang-up on peers.  Act.Da's gone as a result, so be proud of yourselves - PV took one more kid out by illegal means.  How were you abused, Becky?  Were you ashamed to be seen going into a PV family support group?  Any alumnus or staffer pictured had been involved in abuse or PV promotion - like you, Becky, and you cannot deny it.  Didn't Messer restrain you?

Becky wrote:
"You (Act.Da) had a zero % impact...not one family pulled their kid or took you seriously. They thought you were just a sad, mixed up kid".

Wow...did you get that "zero %" stat like PV used to?  By pulling it out of your ass?  Because it sounds like PV's "outcome study", and I think even you know what a joke that was.  

You're wrong, Becky.  For a guy you weren't worried about, why did you call 911 on Act.Da?  The call is up on YouTube, he got it through FOIA.  What impact one extremely brave protestor had on a group of people who were being sold the program by you and Pegler is difficult to gauge.  Act.Da wasn't always alone - I was with him at one protest in Raleigh, and we had a discussion with folks who appeared to be grandparents.  Grandma was quick to dismiss Act.Da as "a sad, mixed-up kid", but didn't know how to deal with me.  When she asked if I were also an ex-patient, I told her I was the parent of a patient and quoted some horrible things from the PV medical records.  She smirked and asked "Are you a doctor?"  I said no, but the Psychiatrist who reviewed them is, and he says PV is committing malpractice.  The lady smirked and walked away, but her husband stood with his jaw open and seemed to have questions, then his wife literally yelled for him to follow.  Act. Da planted seeds of doubt.  Personally, my wife and I kept three kids from being sent to PV and posted a lot of docs and info you seemed to have found helpful.  

So what did Act.Da accomplish?  Where do you go for your PV family support groups or alumni retreats, Becky?  NOWHERE.  Peninsula Village is GONE - sold off.  WE GOT PENINSULA VILLAGE.  What else do you want?   Who are you to criticize the angry feelings your peers have toward YOU, who aided staff and got others in trouble to cover yourself, Becky?

Becky wrote:
"To me, when I needed info like the stuff posted here (cause it helped me discover a lot of disturbing details) I thought maybe I'd find alliances, people who actually feel the same that I do about the village. But I thought wrong, cause there's no help or real care here, just a bunch of angry bullies with no direction..."

While you were at Parent Support Group meetings helping to sell and keep kids in Peninsula Village, we were tearing the program down.  Some of us still had kids in PV or were patients recently discharged.  Were we angry bullies with no direction?   PV could have sued me anytime if I had posted anything untrue - and they COULDN'T.  "Bullies" is an odd thing to call former PV patients who suffered abuse.  From your own description, you were the "bully" looking to make things as easy as possible for yourself.  You were still very supportive of PV and would not have been an "ally" to anyone here, Becky.  An "alliance" with you would have been an info funnel into PV.  As far as no direction...the goal was to eradicate PV and break up the deranged staff and clinical team.  The "angry bullies with no direction" hit their target.  Now, after the place is gone, you want to criticize how we did it?  The clinical staff were complete incompetents, and the counselors were trained by them.  Had a bit of trouble with counselors in Camp PV, didn't you?  Those counselors don't even know the laws regarding treatment or post treatment, and you still back them?

Four years later, after the program is defunct, the clinicians and doctors are scattered - and you come forward wanting US to do something for you with some forensic evidence you have?  There is a statute of limitations, Becky, and you missed it while you were out promoting PV.  PENINSULA VILLAGE IS GONE - CLOSED.  We did get McLain's licensure issues, and your beloved Bob Pegler's, too.  While you criticize this group, you quoted from it (and me) often enough on Camp PV.

You want McLain?  He's at Northwest Academy.  I'm afraid to mention any more former staff - I don't know which ones you love and which you hate, and you need a scorched earth policy to take on these people - look, they ALL knew what was going on at the Village - they either participated in the abusive shit or they watched and stayed silent.  No respect for either, and since there were no "whistleblowers" at PV, to hell with the lot of them.  Someone could have spoken up about the abuse.  

Becky wrote:
"I'm posting this in the attempt to at least expose some of the PV-esque tactics some posters are apparently into...ironic considering you all say you don't approve of those things...Then I had to deal with guys finding my youtube, and then posting all my videos so you could make fun of them..."

We were never as skilled in "PV-esque" talents as you successful graduates of the Village.  PV went to work on Act.Da., literally using his personal medical records to burn him.  You think Act.Da. is "sick" and whatever else they force-fed you, but he stood up to PV alone and was the hero.  You think he wasn't embarrassed?  He is a very quiet, shy person - it took a lot to stand out there alone as carloads of PV hecklers drove by.  I was there one day, I heard and saw the rudest crap - all coming from PV boosters' mouths.  Why would Act.Da. and others want to write about their PV tormentors and post the most embarrassing pics of them?

PV stripped patients of their privacy, family, and rights, demanded false "confessions" to justify holding patients.  They beat, drugged, and mechanically restrained the resistant.  It is a typical reaction for the abused to want to lash out at their abusers if given an opportunity.  Obviously people remembered you from PV, and not in a favorable way.  They considered you part of the abusive regime, and wanted retaliation.  Also, keep in mind PV was still open for business when this forum was active.  Our anger was appropriate at the time, not like yours is four years later...and Jesus Christ, all you want to do is go on a self-centered venting spree about your YouTube videos?  I know kids who will suffer the rest of their lives from the over-medication they received at PV. If they wanted to come back and vent spleen about PV again, they would have damned more compelling reasons than your embarrassing public YouTube videos.  

You think these posters could use a shot of "booty juice" and a mechanical restraint?  You could get a group of former PV counselors to "call group" on them for "acting out", but the counselors have always known better than to come to Fornits, LOL.  A lot of these postings are satire based on what went on in "confrontations" and the idiotic weekly "focus".

Also, we're not mental health professionals...just people burned by PV.  Some were a "bad fit" (misplacement) for the Village, "some didn't work the program", some had very rich parents who didn't flinch at a $100,000 per year to warehouse their kid so they didn't have to face sucking as parents.  Some were just suckered along with their parents into the Village scam - NONE of them belonged in PV.  So we're a lot of PV "losers" - lucky to not be "dead, crazy or in jail", so what did you expect?  This is not a "support group" - its purpose was never supporting PV and giving a polite ear to their arguments.  We all had the "PV's way or the highway" piled on us against our will.  No one was feeling indulgent toward PV dogma after gaining the freedom to say "no more bullshit".  Some survivors found it "purging" to confront those who abused them, especially vicious staff and snitch alumni.  It's a typical reaction, and an empowering one to the survivors of Peninsula with complex PTSD.  

The board has been slow since PV CEASED TO EXIST - you don't seem to be able to grasp that.  WE'VE ALL MOVED ONTO FIGHTING OTHER ABUSIVE PROGRAMS AND ARE ACTIVE, BUT PV IS EXTINCT - KAPUT - KNACKERED, Becky!  PV was busted by the publicity and ditched the dead weight.  This forum you claim is full of bullies was instrumental in exposing PV's abuses.  Without the actions of Act.Da and others, you would still be going to your alumni retreats and selling the program to parents.  You're the one waving outdated records for a program that DOESN'T EXIST anymore, except in flashbacks and nightmares.  No new pictures have gone up of alumni or staff and no old posts are coming down - I promise you.
 
Becky wrote:
"If you're fueled by so much angry, get out and actually do something about it...like really do something. Leave the victims out of this, not a single alumni or even staff for that matter has even bothered half as much as you guys have to harass, defame, and bother them."

Becky, you devalue the terrible experience of every peer who didn't play your "kiss ass" game with staff.  Like Wendy Chastain said, a lot of kids who didn't need long-term treatment were kept at PV - that's false imprisonment, and God bless every kid who fought against a goon staff armed with anti psychotics, mechanical restraints, and boot-licking peers like you. You have no room to criticize how these survivors express their anger, Becky - you were part of the abusive treatment that fueled it.

In the end, if you have so much documentation, why mention it here?  Why don't YOU "like really do something." DIY, Becky - Do It Yourself.  If you still have a bone to grind with PV, I suggest you purchase a legal grinder and get down to it.  Your criticism here hasn't won you any support or offers to help.  Over the past couple of years, I've watched you vacillate between loving PV and being slightly critical of it, and Peninsula Village is GONE!  If you want to go after a program, go after the place that bought PV - Acadia Village.  Not much going on there, and according to Wendy Chastain restraints aren't allowed.  I've heard one report of abuse out of Acadia, and reported it to the DCS - best you can do.  So what are YOU doing, now that you at least know PV is gone and Acadia Village is the new ownership?

You have a lot of learning to do, Becky.
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A PV counselor\'s description of his job:

\"I\'m there to handle kids that are psychotic, suicidal, homicidal, or have commited felonies. Oh yeah, I am also there to take them down when they are rowdy so the nurse can give them the booty juice.\"

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Re: PV Counselor does a dance!
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2013, 12:09:12 AM »
I miss Act.da.

Fuck PV.the

Still, best investment I ever have made was to donate my camera to Act.da. Got some great use out of it. I hope he's using it for something perverted now, he's a tough little dude and deserves a good break.
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