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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #435 on: October 13, 2008, 09:37:44 PM »
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No moderator- parent mod, no less, should sniff out a survivor's info, use it to threaten and humiliate them. How would you like knowing your personal, private details of your life were accessable here,  because of a moderator, for no reason?

 Make Act Da. in charge of that forum instead. People should be able to come here with an expectation of not being victimized by the people who run this site. It would make me less queasy about posting here, and sending people here, personally.

Where the hell have you been? Survivors are outted by staff and others all the time, and it's left up under the banner of Free Speech. Why should CCM get preferential treatment? Not even sure she meets the definition of "survivor" bein's she enjoyed her institutionalization and attacks other survivors. Give too many details about yourself and staff could out you too.
Are you wanting to post in the PV forum? If not, what are you worried about? It's impossible to find an anon's personal info on other venues. Sure you're not using this as revenge for something else you're pissed at ZA about?
As for being able to "come here with an expectation of not being victimized by the people who run this site".... well, there is no guarentee there. Just depends on who you cross. Guess you could say it's human nature. Doesn't matter how long you've been here or how well respected you become, everyone is subject to being victimized.
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #436 on: October 13, 2008, 09:43:49 PM »
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I can't begin to describe how upsetting it is to witness the deluded, ugly vanity of a program parent belittling a program survivor for not equaling his program-fighting heroism

Just curious, does she refer to herself as a "survivor"? If so I musta missed it.
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #437 on: October 13, 2008, 09:54:43 PM »
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Quote from: "ASD"
No moderator- parent mod, no less, should sniff out a survivor's info, use it to threaten and humiliate them. How would you like knowing your personal, private details of your life were accessable here,  because of a moderator, for no reason?

 Make Act Da. in charge of that forum instead. People should be able to come here with an expectation of not being victimized by the people who run this site. It would make me less queasy about posting here, and sending people here, personally.

Where the hell have you been? Survivors are outted by staff and others all the time, and it's left up under the banner of Free Speech. Why should CCM get preferential treatment? Not even sure she meets the definition of "survivor" bein's she enjoyed her institutionalization and attacks other survivors. Give too many details about yourself and staff could out you too.
Are you wanting to post in the PV forum? If not, what are you worried about? It's impossible to find an anon's personal info on other venues. Sure you're not using this as revenge for something else you're pissed at ZA about?
As for being able to "come here with an expectation of not being victimized by the people who run this site".... well, there is no guarentee there. Just depends on who you cross. Guess you could say it's human nature. Doesn't matter how long you've been here or how well respected you become, everyone is subject to being victimized.


She's not getting "preferential" treatment...not at all: people like you say she "deserved" what she got, she gets called  liar and attention whore for complaining about what was done to her, her info would still be up if ZA hadn't removed it, her photos were up and her and her husband's looks were mocked more nastily and over longer a time period than anyone's..It doesn't really matter.

The point is no one who does that to a survivor (and, no, she doesn't "like" her institutionalization) should be running this site--a site FOR SURVIVORS.

know what I mean? No administrator has ever used their powers to do that to someone before this.
This site has always been completely dedicated to free speech, to the point it works against the site.

Yes, she's a survivor.
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #438 on: October 13, 2008, 10:31:03 PM »
Yet no administrator would have to use their 'powers' to find her information. A quick sweep of the other forums at the time would have given most people all the juicy details they wanted and taking it a step further with a google search and you could have her whole life at your fingertips.

I knew her name and saw her picture a long time before it ever got posted. It really wasn't that hard to find. If I recall I stumbled over her profile on the antiwwasp site one day while getting ready to troll it during the big Judge Roy Bean scream session and took note of it. Her picture is still posted on Cafety.org if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong though.

Fact is you are right that no administrator should ever use their powers to out ANYONE on this forum, but in this case no administrator did. Zen wasn't or isn't an Administrator and even as a moderator he wouldn't have access anything useful.
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Imagine, if you will......that I'm Rod Serling...
« Reply #439 on: October 13, 2008, 11:35:02 PM »
Well, it looks as if this convoluted commotion and drama may finally be coming to an end!

Could the brouhaha really be over?

Is it possible??

Can this insanity be put to rest at last???

It's almost impossible to believe...
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #440 on: October 13, 2008, 11:51:16 PM »
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She's not getting "preferential" treatment...not at all: people like you say she "deserved" what she got, she gets called  liar and attention whore for complaining about what was done to her, her info would still be up if ZA hadn't removed it, her photos were up and her and her husband's looks were mocked more nastily and over longer a time period than anyone's..It doesn't really matter.

I said nothing remotely close to "she deserved it".
Dear god, what was done to her? How long was the alleged post up? How many people saw it? Has she gotten any death threats like some survivors have? Calls in the middle of the night? Calls to employers?  Who's shit is down and who's shit remains posted???? I'd say that's preferential.

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The point is no one who does that to a survivor (and, no, she doesn't "like" her institutionalization) should be running this site--a site FOR SURVIVORS.

You don't get around Fornits much do you?  This may come as a real shock, but Fornits isn't a "SURVIVOR" site. Many consider it to be, but it isn't and never was intended to be according to the owner and her admin. You will not be protected from evil staff or trolls. You want safety? Create your own website or forum.

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know what I mean? No administrator has ever used their powers to do that to someone before this. This site has always been completely dedicated to free speech, to the point it works against the site. Yes, she's a survivor.

Even if the alleged post existed, ZAs moderator status would not have yielded that kind of information. This is a free-for-all. Anyone can go gather up information posted around cyberspace and copy it here. Again, happens all the time. CCMs was removed, if it ever existed. And that's a damn sight better than what others have experienced. She should consider herself lucky.
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #441 on: October 14, 2008, 10:08:31 AM »
Why dey be aucshunin' off dis nigga's account likes he fo sale on de slave block?  :D  An why CCM and dis 'asd' bitch squawkin about CCM's info bein put down when ccm da one who put ha' info on de net in de fust place? Dis shit's fukkin CRAZY.

Y'all niggaz kin kiss mah black ass! :moon:  8)
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #442 on: October 14, 2008, 01:14:49 PM »
Quote from: "preferential treatment"
Quote from: "telle"
She's not getting "preferential" treatment...not at all: people like you say she "deserved" what she got, she gets called  liar and attention whore for complaining about what was done to her, her info would still be up if ZA hadn't removed it, her photos were up and her and her husband's looks were mocked more nastily and over longer a time period than anyone's..It doesn't really matter.

I said nothing remotely close to "she deserved it".
Dear god, what was done to her? How long was the alleged post up? How many people saw it? Has she gotten any death threats like some survivors have? Calls in the middle of the night? Calls to employers?  Who's shit is down and who's shit remains posted???? I'd say that's preferential.

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The point is no one who does that to a survivor (and, no, she doesn't "like" her institutionalization) should be running this site--a site FOR SURVIVORS.

You don't get around Fornits much do you?  This may come as a real shock, but Fornits isn't a "SURVIVOR" site. Many consider it to be, but it isn't and never was intended to be according to the owner and her admin. You will not be protected from evil staff or trolls. You want safety? Create your own website or forum.

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know what I mean? No administrator has ever used their powers to do that to someone before this. This site has always been completely dedicated to free speech, to the point it works against the site. Yes, she's a survivor.

Even if the alleged post existed, ZAs moderator status would not have yielded that kind of information. This is a free-for-all. Anyone can go gather up information posted around cyberspace and copy it here. Again, happens all the time. CCMs was removed, if it ever existed. And that's a damn sight better than what others have experienced. She should consider herself lucky.

i can't believe this shit is still going on and the babyish/foul behavior it encourages in people who don't care she was mistreated by a mod.

Again, the alleged post existed, though ZA has been lying about that, all this time. Remember his cries that the post had been proved a "fraud by pys"

He's just as believable on how he got that info. ip's can indicate a lot of personal info...And, if he got into her PMs, with someone assisting him...

I don't think you’re seeing things logically if you think a person who comes to a survivor site to deal with their pain from institutionalized torment is then targeted by a person who runs that site for further torment is “preferential.”

Basically, the idea is that any user can publish anything they want, but the people who run this site? Publishing info just to be able to humiliate, threaten a survivor they like fucking with? Um..NO
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Eat my shit, you fucking drama whore!
« Reply #443 on: October 14, 2008, 01:22:10 PM »
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i can't believe this shit is still going on and the babyish/foul behavior it encourages in people who don't care she was mistreated by a mod.
"Mistreated"? Anyone have a rubber room for this nutcase? ^  

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Again, the alleged post existed, though ZA has been lying about that, all this time. Remember his cries that the post had been proved a "fraud by pys"
No one cares about this except you, douche nozzle.

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He's just as believable on how he got that info. ip's can indicate a lot of personal info...And, if he got into her PMs, with someone assisting him...
The info came from her myspace page.

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I don't think you’re seeing things logically if you think a person who comes to a survivor site to deal with their pain from institutionalized torment is then targeted by a person who runs that site for further torment is “preferential.”
Get out the violins. What a whack job!!

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Basically, the idea is that any user can publish anything they want, but the people who run this site? Publishing info just to be able to humiliate, threaten a survivor they like fucking with? Um..NO
If they're stupid enough to put their info out there, then they deserve what they get!!
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #444 on: October 15, 2008, 01:15:54 AM »
Oh noes. Each time I visit thefornits farm this shit’s still gettin shoveled.

Quote from: "ZenAgent"
Quote from: "CCM girl 1989"
Sorry about all this. If Zen had just been honest in the very beginning.......!
I WAS honest.
Read above, CCM - your Jesus friend admitted I used blanks for your info.  

To God loves us all - you did admit I used blanks to disguise this woman's identity, and I get the feeling that still upset you.  I appreciate your honesty in setting the record straight about CCM's info not being posted in full, as she and Who claimed..  

I’ve gotta say: as I saw you out CCM, ZA, I’m offended to see you call her, a survivor, a liar.

You did post CCM & husband’s full name & address: U were squabbling w/who about something. Later, u edited out part of her info, the edit is what “God is all” quoted.

“God is all” does NOT verify that when he quoted you, you “used blanks to hide her identity.” He did NOT verify you just posted her first name, state, and “blanks,” which is what you’ve claimed. (Sometimes claimed, anyway) He verifies that in your post you effectively outed her, and that your quote that you've claimed is doctored, is factual.
“God” verifies this—

Quote from: "god is all"
Yes, the post did include a few X's that blocked out some letters in her, her husband's full name, city and state. But it was easy enough to fill in the blanks, the effect was the same. To call leaving a few letters out of her information "respectful to CCM" is absurd.

I’m not sure why you chime in with  accounts of what you did. Your accounts have been shown fraudulent to the point they are meaningless: You said “god is all’s” quote of you extorting CCM, was a “fiction” and it couldn’t be found because it “never existed.”

Quote from: "ZenAgent"
Maybe you're confused by the one Psy identified as another troll's fake, but that's the one CCM, Who and a bunch of people with no names kept posting as the ultimate "proof".   After Psy showed it was a fiction, the witch hunt shifted to  a search for some "other" phantom post.  If "so many" claim to have seen this post, why ask me to find it?  CCM and others swore up and down that they saw full info, [r]until Psy showed it had never existed - the post they cited as a "censored" one was a fraud.[/r]

Quote from: "ZenAgent"
So there was no "deleted" post, and the post that keeps coming up has been investigated by Psy and identified as the fiction of some anonymous troll.  

The “witch hunt” for the “phantom post” was the search for your post that “god” quoted—which you deleted, & claimed never existed and was a fraud.

Alternatively, you claimed to have put non-privacy disturbing info up about CCM, Not true, disproved by "god," and not what u r claiming to have posted now.

Quote from: "ZenAgent"
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The only correct first name used was CCM's - I made one up for her husband, and her address is unknown to me.  
 

Or, this

Quote from: "ZenAgent"
Okay, first I'd like to apologize to CCM - I didn't use anything more than your first name and home state, (you used to sign your posts with your first name).  I did add your husband's first name, too.  

I wish you'd cut de crap. And if I see you or an admin saying a survivor “lied” about any experience, which I can personally corroborate, I’ll post a corrective.Sorry. It’s funny. You can believe a survivor over a program parent about anything
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #445 on: October 15, 2008, 07:29:00 AM »
More wackjob obsessive stirring the pot.
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #446 on: October 15, 2008, 10:26:46 AM »
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i can't believe this shit is still going on and the babyish/foul behavior it encourages in people who don't care she was mistreated by a mod.

It's not that people don't care.  It's that we don't agree on what happened.  You think she was targeted and outted.  Most of us don't.  It's really that simple.


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Again, the alleged post existed, though ZA has been lying about that, all this time. Remember his cries that the post had been proved a "fraud by pys"

He's just as believable on how he got that info. ip's can indicate a lot of personal info...And, if he got into her PMs, with someone assisting him...

How do you not understand that SHE put her information out there?


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I don't think you’re seeing things logically if you think a person who comes to a survivor site to deal with their pain from institutionalized torment is then targeted by a person who runs that site for further torment is “preferential.”

Just as I don't think YOU are seeing things logically if you think CCM was abused here.

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Basically, the idea is that any user can publish anything they want, but the people who run this site? Publishing info just to be able to humiliate, threaten a survivor they like fucking with? Um..NO

That's not what happened.  


Jesus FUCKING H Christ!!!!!!   Move the fuck on!!  Get over it.  Quit beating a dead horse.  Get a life.  Take your meds.  Whatever works, but please.  For the love of FSM..........STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!

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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #447 on: October 15, 2008, 10:40:37 AM »
Fuck me...

But since when has Fornits been a survivor site? I thought it was a gay porn forum. Honestly.. The great gay porn is the only reason I've stuck around this long.

 :sue:
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« Reply #448 on: October 15, 2008, 10:51:24 AM »
Quote from: "get some sleep"
More wackjob obsessive stirring the pot.
:D  :bs:  :D
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Re: The Who offers to auction off his account for fornits!
« Reply #449 on: October 15, 2008, 11:12:42 AM »
'The Meaning of Life' on Fornits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1kftCx5-tA

 ;D
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