Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Lighthouse of northwest florida (fka VCA )/ Rebekah / Roloff )
Rebekah Reclamation Ranch ???
Anonymous:
I know this post won't make much of a difference at all, but I can't stand to see people insinuate things about the Ranch that are not true. I personally know the staff and many or most of the Rebekah Home Girls. I just came back from a 2 week trip with them. Miss Trudy is very patient, kind and loving toward the girls. Several of them call her "Mom", because many of them do not have good relationships with their mothers and they love Miss Trudy just like she is their mother. All the other staff that work for the Rebekah Home are patient and they want the best for the girls. Some of the workers do have degrees in child development or similar studies; some don't. I don't think you have to have a degree to work with the girls or boys. You do need a burden for them and you need God.
The Rebekah Home is a good place. I know several of the girls personally, and I know some of their testimonies. I'm not talking about testimonies they give in church, I'm talking about bits and pieces of their testimonies that they tell me when I talk to them. Many of these girls never had a chance, they had no hope. They were in and out of programs from early ages, and the Ranch is the only place that made a difference. These girls that everyone said would never amount to anything turn out to be something and do good things with their lives. That's because the Ranch doesn't pound stuff into them, they let God work in their lives and deal with them personally. The Ranch staff do not force girls to the altar, they don't make them "get saved". The staff live good Christian lives in front of the girls and they show them that you can do right and you can have a good life, better yet you can live a good life and serve God doing it. You can rest assured that anyone who is placed in the program that wants help will get the help that they need and come out way better than when they came.
Btw..for the fool who was talking about Dr. Patterson only having the experience of 3 years w/ Roloff..you failed to list his many degrees, so I will.
Pensacola Bible Institute - BD
Hyles Anderson College - BS
Hyles Anderson College - Bachelors Degree in Religious Education
Honorary DR degree from Pacific Garden Mission Institute
Also..I know the people who work for the Homes. They are good people. "Hurrikayne" does not know these people. I do.
hurrikayne:
Ah now Abby, you would be putting words into my mouth dear. I never stated "Dr. Patterson (as) only having the experience of 3 years w/ Roloff." I merely pointed out some of his prior experience.
As for a fool, one is defined as such:
1. a silly or stupid person; a person who lacks judgment or sense. (Those who know me will agree this is not typical of my normal behavior.)
2. a professional jester, formerly kept by a person of royal or noble rank for amusement: the court fool. (Again, not something that applies.)
3. a person who has been tricked or deceived into appearing or acting silly or stupid: to make a fool of someone. (Generally does not apply, however it can...given the right circumstances...)
4. an ardent enthusiast who cannot resist an opportunity to indulge an enthusiasm (usually prec. by a present participle): He's just a dancing fool. (Again, generally no, this definition does not apply.)
So, shall we lay aside the insults and interact like adults?
As for my personal opinion, having worked with the great baptizer of chickens himself (Lester Roloff), well that makes Dr. Patterson suspect enough. Not familiar with that? Read the book his wife wrote. Mrs. Lester herself, pants wearing, television watching, jewelry flaunting Roloff. All the things that were supposed to be such great evils & sins.
No, I do not know Miss Trudy myself, no, I do however, know others who do. I also know what the Kool-Aid tastes like, and what it feels like when the Kool-Aid wears off. One day, perhaps you will too.
In the meantime, if you have something to share, by all means do so, but to try to curb your sophomoric tendencies. Please, do clarify something for me, is it Rebekah, or Rachel? Which home? What are the rules? What are the punishments for not following the rules? What is a typical day like? How are the girls treated while on tour? How much & how often do they interact with their families? How often do they see a physician, clinician or other health professional? What if a girl has a different belief system, say Judaism?
Anonymous:
Main Entry: soph·o·mor·ic
1 : conceited and overconfident of knowledge but poorly informed and immature <a sophomoric argument>
I don't believe what I had to say was conceited. I didn't act overconfident of my knowledge. How am I poorly informed? As for immature, I don't know how old you are, but I am a teenager, so I may seem immature. I'm sorry for that, I try not to be.
Now, please forgive me for confusing Rebekah and Rachel - that was stupid, I should have closely reread my words before I posted them.
I was upset because you "pointed out some of Dr. Patterson's prior experience" without pointing out his degrees. I felt that you were trying to make a point that none of the Ranch staff were very qualified at all to work with the girls, so I was making sure Dr. Patterson was recognized for the degrees he earned, not just "the experience of 3 years w/ Roloff".
I have never heard Dr. Patterson say that wearing pants, jewelry, or watching tv are sins. I have sat under his preaching, and I am not sure of his stands on these things, however I do know our church's stand on these things -- that in moderation, these things are not evil.
What does it feel like when Kool Aid wears off?
As for the rest of your questions..wow, hit me with all those questions at once! Please, make your questions very specific and less general. Remember I am immature, and I have sophomoric tendencies.
Also - I would never want to say anything to misrepresent the Ranch in any way and everything I say here is my personal viewpoint based on what I have heard and seen being around the Ranch. If you are looking for absolute definite information, call the Ranch offices at 205.647.1414.
Anonymous:
Hi Abby,
I posted the first question asking for any information about the Rebekah Reclamation Ranch, or what is called the Rachel Academy, because my dad sent my sister there. Could you please respond to at least some of the questions about the Rachel Academy, or whatever it is called, from one of the previous posts. My dad will not give me any information about the home and I am really worried about my sister. Knowing more about the situation she is in might make me feel better.
Thank you.
"What home? What are the rules? What are the punishments for not following the rules? What is a typical day like? How are the girls treated while on tour? How much & how often do they interact with their families? How often do they see a physician, clinician or other health professional? What if a girl has a different belief system, say Judaism?"
hurrikayne:
Abby:
--- Quote ---I have never heard Dr. Patterson say that wearing pants, jewelry, or watching tv are sins. I have sat under his preaching, and I am not sure of his stands on these things, however I do know our church's stand on these things -- that in moderation, these things are not evil.
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Most preachers make very clear their stands on those things which they do feel are acceptable, or are sinful. If your churches stance is that in moderation these things are not evil, then that is a very positive sign.
Abby:
--- Quote ---Please, make your questions very specific and less general.
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Originally I asked the following:
--- Quote ---What are the rules? What are the punishments for not following the rules? What is a typical day like? How are the girls treated while on tour? How much & how often do they interact with their families? How often do they see a physician, clinician or other health professional? What if a girl has a different belief system, say Judaism?
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To your knowledge, what are the basic rules of Rachel Academy? (What are the girls allowed to do/or restricted from doing?)
To the best of your knowledge, what kinds of punishments are faced by the girls of Rachel Academy if they break the rules? (If they should do something which is known to be outside acceptable behavior?)
While touring, are the girls given privileges which they do not enjoy while at the academy? What happens if they break academy rules while on tour?
Do the girls have the opportunity to see their families more than once every six months? Are they allowed telephone conversations with their families? Are they allowed to write letters to friends and/family?
How often do they see a doctor, nurse or other health professional, such as a psychiatrist or psychologist?
What if a girl has a different belief system, say Judaism, is that girl treated differently? Is she allowed to observe her own faith?
Abby:
--- Quote ---What does it feel like when Kool Aid wears off?
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In a word, LIBERATING.
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