Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Chris/Ryan/Tim...Coldwater
FaceKhan:
Is Coldwater supposed to be a big budget film that is gonna be widely released?
Has anyone here seen the film or are we all just guessing as to how good or bad it is gonna be.
Just because a kid who was at wwasp is consulting with them does not mean the movie can be about wwasp. It looks like its about a bootcamp of some kind and there are plenty of bad things about those too. In addition it says the kid is "sentenced" to Coldwater so it could not be WWASP because no one is sentenced to WWASP although sometimes parents suggest it in lieu of jailtime and the judge, more than happy to save the state some money and assuming that a private program will be better than a prison agrees.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-07-27 18:37:00, Carey wrote:
"I can't say whether Dundee is closed for good or not, but I can betcha if it opens back up, it won't operate the same way it did. The Costa Rican government will be all over them like flies. So, the question is, will Narvin be willing to open a camp in which all eyes will be upon him?
--- End quote ---
That would be SO great! Maybe he'll figure out that boundaries and consequences don't work in the real world - who needs this anyway??
FaceKhan:
There are boundaries and consequences in the real world. Boundaries like the border between Costa Rica and other countries which he violated by bringing in Jamaican staff members with no legal right to work there and by bringing in American teens with no visas to stay there.
Then there are consequences, like having your program shut down for abuse and criminal behavior and violations of the UN convention on torture and the UN declaration of human rights and the rights of children. And hopefully those consequences will include a lengthy stay in lovely Costa Rica federal prison where he can look out on breathtaking views of the rainforest and ocean from behind bars.
Anonymous:
Coldwater is perfect, there are so many victims out there and coldwater will direct attention in this much needed subject. So what if the kid gets all the media attention, hes been through more then all of you people and we all know he is making the biggest difference. There not trying to use the media to sell the movie, this movie is being dedicated to the kids that died or have been killed!
As a victim, I must say that carey's word is pretty worthless in this matter and no one seems to agree with her on her own forms.
Of course carey has a reason to be jelous, but its people like herself that sit at the computer all day long and gripe while a kid is more hard working then her. Then again thats whats so fabulous about my personal opinion!!!!!
Its his article that exploded the media in the first place, and it's him who seems more caring about teens then some people.
Some people like to sit around and waste there time trying to prove a point, but in a suject like this, You bet Coldwater has alot of support.
You can either save teens from these places, or waste your time griping about the people who actually do. Take a good look at the real life survior and read his story, you would make alot of people sick if your going to dis-credit what that boy went through, Somethin tells all of us he's sure saved alot more kids then you carey.
Think about the matter, don't you think you should re-direct your subject rather then making a fan club out of him?
You put so much into your writing, no wondor you never got anywhere in life...
hey personal opinion's are cool!!!!!
make some more boards you looser
Carey:
Anon, I must have really upset you with my words. You were up late last night responding to my opinions. I guess other people, like yourself, do read my forum. The sad thing is that you miss the whole point. What I am hoping people get out of my words is that there is TRUTH and FICTION. Endorsing FICTION is dangerous.
Now, I agree with Facekahn that a fiction movie about "bootcamps" is good. I also agree with his theory that some "bootcamps" will be depicted by this movie and it may help people to at least start to think "what if this truely is going on?" But remember this movie is not about WWASP. It can't be it is FICTION. Plus, I think it will hurt the class action case against WWASP. We have "survivors" of a WWASP program backing a FICTION film. Openly backing a fiction film. A jury might ask, do they know fact from fiction?
I would hope that if you decide to respond to my opinion that you do so in a more mature manner. Instead of attacking me personally, why don't you try attacking what I am saying. In other words, try and argue about the subject, instead of attacking me. I know that will be harder for you to do, but it may help you to be taken more seriously.
Ryan is a survivor. No doubt about it. I am happy that he is out and that he is helping others. That should be what all survivors and their families do. I am just afraid that people may look at this film and his involvement and question his own personal testimony.
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