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cleveland:
I haven't posted on this site in ages, and I have visited only sporadically. Seems like sometimes it's up, sometimes down, and moving to various host locations. I don't know the details.

I had kind of had a 'been there, done that' attitude towards the site. I am turning 50, I have two children, I'm busy, and I work (ironically) about 1/2 mile from the old Cleveland Seed, so I pass it frequently and feel - nothing.

However, I have seen some of the recent posts by people who have just discovered this site, and it reminds me how powerful it is to reconnect. To have the chance to relive old memories and grievances, grind an ax or two and even realize where my original ideas were mistaken. So amazing.

The Seed remains for me a pivotal, formative, powerful experience. I still haven't decided whether it was all good or bad, and the fact is, it was both. No matter what, those memories will live with me forever, and I am sure I will still have dreams in which the Seed plays a role.

So, thanks again to Ginger and Greg and whoever else is helping them maintain this forum, in spite of whether you agree with their views or not - they are letting us air our views here, and, you know what, the truth will out.

Take care and happy discovery for any new Seed Kids that find this site.

cleveland:
By the way, I just realized today is my Seed birthday - August 15, 1978.

30 YEARS!

cleveland:
Hey Greg, thanks for the message.

My brother is a busy guy these days, and in fact, we talk monthly, or so, but i will convey the message...

Are you enjoying being at dad at 50? Sometimes I feel guilt that i will be a decrepid old fart when my two girls, now 1 and 3, are adults...or maybe I will stay healthy well into later age. Who knows? Anyway, it's a blast, when it doesn't suck (lost sleep, freedom and downtime) but that is more than made up for in good stuff.

Yes, although I have mixed feelings about the Seed and understand the extremes of feelings on either side, I am cursed or blessed with empathy for both outlooks...good thing I am not in politics, what a flip-flopper!

Antigen:
Hey there, Cleveland! Good to hear from you. Don't feel guilty about being an old dad. My dad was almost your age when I was born. What he lacked in young man's patience and energy he made up for in old man's wisdom and mellowing.

Tell your bro I said hi too.

grad1:
My 9 year old daughter had another kid ask her if I was her grandfather the other day. WOW. I think I am still young at 53. My mother was 41 when I went into the Seed. Hard to believe.

I know that a lot of people hated those songs at the Seed, but I sang some of them to my daughter at bedtime and in the AM. I remembered that Robert would get into it in 74, "You got to get up every morning with a smile on your face.." My attitude really sucked after being sleep deprived and hearing that song.

However, I still feel that I would be much more messed up if I hadn't gone to the Seed and did all those silly things.

I too beleive that this forum has had a great impact and we all can learn from it. I disagree with some of the perspectives presented here, but I think I listen more to alternative positions on this forum than I do in any other part of my life when others have a different perspective than mine.

In reading through some old posts, I saw how supportive people have been to those in trouble or going through a tough time. Maybe that is something we all learned back then.

"It was the best of times and it was the worst of times"

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