why is che allowed back?

[Anonymous]

We don't care if zen did anything wrong or not!  We want him GONE!  Do it!

Exactly.  Trolling by the book.

http://causestalking.net/

Cause stalking is performed by extremist and anti-government groups. Targets include activists, the enemies of politicians and the corporations they work for, whistle blowers, Public Officials, and Doctors who perform abortions. They also select targets of opportunity. These are not enemies of the group, but are selected, based on their vulnerability. Stalking groups can be as large as hundreds of people. Targets are subjected to harassment campaigns, break-ins, staged incidents, vandalism, etc. Their M.O. is 1.Identify, 2 Vilify, 3 Nullify 4 Destroy. This book is a guide for victims on how to get rid of these people. Visit CauseStalking.Net.



1.Identify
2 Vilify
3 Nullify
4 Destroy

sound familiar?

[Anonymous]

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

[Anonymous]

Well, it's official.................blah blah blah blah blah......endless bullshit.....blah blah blah blah

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO IS BOTHERED BY THIS.  If it really does bother you this much, you don't have to come around here. 

[Anonymous]

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

1.Identify
2 Vilify
3 Nullify
4 Destroy


AND YOU'RE NOT DOING TOO WELL AT ALL.  YOU'RE STARTING TO SOUND BITCHY ND DESPERATE, WITH YOUR "DO IT'S".

[Anonymous]

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

TROLLS MAKE:

Demands for (always unspecified) evidence: The troll will say that the victim hasn't offered enough evidence, that his sources are no good etc. and demand more evidence. The demands will always be open ended so that actually satisfying the troll's request for more evidence will be impossible.

Psy tells you that there's no evidence to back your claims, and see above.

[Anonymous]

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

Troll, the only people "outed" on this forum were zen's family, and that evidence is everywhere on the forum.  You always seem to leave that out of your rants.  It doesn't fit your agenda.  That's why you're a troll.

[Guest]

Or we can get back to the business of shutting programs down and avoid this programmie-inspired drama.

^^^THIS

This issue has been addressed many many times.  Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations and continue getting down to the business of shutting down programs (something the resident programmie trolls would rather not happen, preferring to play forum members against each other with baseless false accusations in order to create a climate of fear.)

Chaff. All this is:  chaff (link).  <-- Read.  Highly pertinent.

This has been addressed to death, yes. And in the end, maybe it doesn't matter so much because one can use proxies, and not give out personal info to anyone.

 But yes, he did get her name, address, husbands name, and post it. He also threatened to get the cops to go after her, as "he already has her adress." Psy, you know he said that. Are you going to deny that?

Seriously,pys, ask him to link to the post. He won't; even though he has stated over and over that it exists, just not with all of ccm's info, because he doesn't want people to see what he did.

Ask him how he got ccm's info in the first place--his story has changed so much over time. First  google, now he claims he doesn't even know it. Why does he keep changing his story if he's telling the truth? 

CCM has told you she saw it. Why would she lie? I saw it-- i know you have no reason to believe me, you don't know me, but tons of "corroboration" has been produced (he lied saying there never was an original when asked why he wouldn't link to it, then backtracked) which was erased in the last forum shut down.

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

[Anonymous]

Or we can get back to the business of shutting programs down and avoid this programmie-inspired drama.

^^^THIS

This issue has been addressed many many times.  Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations and continue getting down to the business of shutting down programs (something the resident programmie trolls would rather not happen, preferring to play forum members against each other with baseless false accusations in order to create a climate of fear.)

Chaff. All this is:  chaff (link).  <-- Read.  Highly pertinent.

This has been addressed to death, yes. And in the end, maybe it doesn't matter so much because one can use proxies, and not give out personal info to anyone.

 But yes, he did get her name, address, husbands name, and post it. He also threatened to get the cops to go after her, as "he already has her adress." Psy, you know he said that. Are you going to deny that?

Seriously,pys, ask him to link to the post. He won't; even though he has stated over and over that it exists, just not with all of ccm's info, because he doesn't want people to see what he did.

Ask him how he got ccm's info in the first place--his story has changed so much over time. First  google, now he claims he doesn't even know it. Why does he keep changing his story if he's telling the truth? 

CCM has told you she saw it. Why would she lie? I saw it-- i know you have no reason to believe me, you don't know me, but tons of "corroboration" has been produced (he lied saying there never was an original when asked why he wouldn't link to it, then backtracked) which was erased in the last forum shut down.

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

Troll, the only people "outed" on this forum were zen's family, and that evidence is everywhere on the forum.  You always seem to leave that out of your rants.  It doesn't fit your agenda.  That's why you're a troll.

[Anonymous]

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.

[Anonymous]

Troll, the only people "outed" on this forum were zen's family, and that evidence is everywhere on the forum.  You always seem to leave that out of your rants.  It doesn't fit your agenda.  That's why you're a troll.

and apparently also an idiot intent on driving a stupid STUPID topic NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT into the ground.

[Guest]

Zen did nothing wrong and could have done nothing wrong as moderators have access to no more information than any other poster.  Let's ignore these false accusations

Well, it's official. Fornits administrators support a moderator parent on their forum which threatens and then outs survivors and their families names, information and background checks. I thought it was suspicious all those threads about ZenAgent disappeared, but now it's clear why, because they needed to cover it up.

ZenAgent outed a survivor and her families information because he is angry and hates survivors who don't agree with him on every point. He also recommends programs via PM and even on the forum that he thinks are "safe". This website is now discredited just like many other so called anti program websites. Let's get this straight, it's always been discredited amongst programmies and most parents. Now it's discredited amongst survivors.

For those who still think ZenAgent is telling the truth. PM him and ask him if he posted CCM's and husbands names and threatened to release their background check. That way, when he lies to you directly, and one day you will find out it is a lie according to a source of mine, you will know he is a liar. Do it, PM him right now and then soon you will find out he lied directly to you. Might change your mind about how safe fornits then.

 Are you a pro-program troll, or just a general troll? I guess the latter because programmies don't call themselves "programmies."

 I get it. You like that zenagent sought out and posted personal info of a survivor for kicks. Nothing's going to be done about it, so can the low quality duplicity and enjoy.

[Guest]

Do whatever you want, of course, but it did happen

Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.

You make a lot of incorrect assumptions and your unprovoked abusiveness kinda supports my point. ccm is credible. Castle saw it too, if I'm not mistaken.

Besides, don't you remember, nutso, before you were saying that  that Zen found/posted her info because he was "fighting back" and it was o.k. cause she was too dumb to know how to hide her info.

Try to be more consistent with your bullshit.

Think I'm lying? Ask him to link to his original post. He won't even though up in the bury carcass he announces he's going to edit it, then that he did. He knew where it was then, but not now. How convenient!

[Guest]

If you are so offended by the practices of the admins
and moderators of this website, WHY ARE YOU POSTING HERE???
 :blabla:

Good point. WHo am i to bitch. The guy who was rude to you wasn't me.

[Guest]

Hey, know those people who say I hate to say I told ya so? Liares, every one.

Psy, did I pretty much call it w/ the Who? Yeah, sure, go ahead and do the ban dance one more time if you really feel you must. But, at the end of the number, either we have  free open speech or a controlled closed circle. There are plenty of controled forums of every variety in Cyberia and the real world. Who needs one more?

So yeah, Che is "allowed" here because his mama doesn't work here.

Speaking of which,  people who out survivors can continue moderating? As you may have heard, it's been mentioned once or twice: zenagent outed ccm.

Ask Zen to link to the original post where he threatened to post ccm's complete info. In the bury the carcass thread, he posts he's going to delete the info he put up about ccm, then he announces he did so, so he knows where it's located.

He won't link because the thread  proves what he did.

Or maybe no one responded to his post, so he deleted it entirely, and it really doesn't exist anymore? I don't know. Anyway...it's kinda disrespectful for him to still be a moderator here, especially of the "safe forum."

...but I guess your feeling is buyer beware, right?

THIS

[CCM girl 1989]

[/quote]

Of course it did NOT.  Strange how only CCM and the who claim to have seen it.  Not too credible in the registered user department.

Go back to posting your porn, asswipe.
[/quote]


Oh really, you're saying I'm not credible? Ouch that hurts! LOL!!!!!! The sad thing is, I am one of only a handful of posters registered here on Fornits that is credible. At least in the 3 forums I frequent, and sometimes post in. I've never lied. If I have please enlighten me.