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Was Jubilee Different

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Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: "Just Curious" ---Well I see 31 views and no replies.  This tells me that no one has any info on Jubilee.  Perhaps you folks should not have Jubilee as part of this forum since there has been no reported abuse from there.  I am not doubting what the others have said about the other homes, especially rebekah, but if no one has reported abuse at Jubilee is it fair for you to have them on a watch list?  And yes, I do understand it is a part of the Roloff compound...but apparently it is very different from the homes for the younger girls.  If anyone knows different....PLEASE correct me.  I am seeking the truth....
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I was in Jubilee in 82 and 83.  I was in the ensemble.  I was one of the people who was supposed to be in the plane that crashed.  Abuse?  Yes.  Some that I experienced myself... some I witnessed.  Brainwashed?  Yes.  The ptsd almost killed me, but I survived.  Not all women in Jubilee were adults.  Some of us were put there because we were so close to adult age and perhaps Rebekka was full.  Some of us had felonies, and they were worried about the violence associated with the crimes commited and exposing those women to the Rebekka girls.  I don't think that there was much corpral punishment.  The abuse was mental and spiritual.  Lots and lots of head games.  They were not afraid to lock you up or make you stay up all night for the smallest infraction.  We were seriously sleep deprived.  Miss Diane had a special gift for scaring the shit out of you for any infraction.  They were big fans of endless lock up.  Any questions Girlfriend?

hurrikayne:
Actually, my response was to a prior poster, Curious Suze...I'm personally well aware of the tactics and emotional/spiritual abuses doled out in Jubilee, as well as what some of the Rebekah girls suffered.  Shoot me an E-mail at ladyjane60707@yahoo.com.  There are some things I would be happy to share with you.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Wiki Researcher" ---There is always some difference between adult facilities and juvenile facilities. Adult can remove themselves from the program unless they are court ordered and if someone tries to stop them, they are committing a criminal act. So if someone in an adult facility does not follow the house rules there is only one solution - out on the street with the individual.

It have been the case regarding straight and all their off-springs. Several times the police have been at the facilities and got adults out. Maybe they were too cleaver at Jubilee. Maybe the expelled the people, who did not follow their rules.

I guess that why there is so little info on Jubilee. The category on Fornits Wiki about Roloff homes do in fact have very little info about this specific home. It is mentioned in relationship with the war between Roloff and Texas (Christian Alamo), but specific first hand testimonies about structure, program, levels, consequences are hard to find. Maybe it is because the people who lived there are just too old for internet use or dead.

But the reason for keeping the Roloff category is very clear. A lot of former staff members created their own private prison. They used the rules learned at Roloff or developed them. An interesting story is about the Bethels Boys Academy. They started out with the Roloff system and corporal punishment. Late before the original owners sold the place after hard weather also destroyed the place they adapted the WWASP system instead. A system the new owners have continued to use.

I will try to improve the articles about the adult facilities, so the difference in standard and treatment at juvenile and adult Roloff facilities can be clear to the readers. It seems that there was a huge difference.

Could you put some light on level system, daily life, living conditions, education etc?
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There were definately people held against their will.  Are you serious.  I was held there against my will.  I wouldn't have asked for help if the police had walked up and asked me.  They had me in such fear.  You have no idea.

hurrikayne:
Yeah, and there was no level system.

TimScrivener:
It seems to me that the original poster is wanting to be convinced that there was abuse where there was not. And of course there are those posters here that claim to be abused. I would be curious to hear what kind of "abuse" you experienced. Seems like some of you think it's abusive to be told you're wrong. And as far as a lock up room goes, I know that what you are calling a "lock up" is a room designed to keep violent people from hurting themselves and others. Chances are if you ended up in there the police were called and you were hauled off. Yeah, wow, that's really abusive huh.

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