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Coldwater the Movie
Anonymous:
Carey, why don't YOU ask the attorneys. I've met with them in person, so until you get the facts, YOU need to shut up. They are very much behind the attention it will give to the case.
You also keep omitting the fact that the producers of the "fictional" Coldwater, are ALSO producing a REAL LIFE documentary, telling not only Ryan's story but many many others. Totally NON-fiction, that will be included with the film's DVD release. Plus, the fact that the film, et al is being dedicated to all of the kids that have died, with a portion of profits going to legitimate charities, helping children and NOT putting them in camps.
I guess you just didn't want to mention that, so as to make your case against a fictional film seem more believable. Could it be you're upset cuz your boys aren't getting the spotlight anymore? Maybe if you'd played nice, they might've been a part of it too. (although I doubt you'd ever admit to that) It's okay, I know you'll be buying a ticket to the film when it's released, cuz the curiosity will be driving you crazy! (again, something you'll never admit to, but I'd love to see you incognito going to a screening!)
I may be "anonymous," but you know who this is. I just couldn't sit here any longer and let you spout off about things you know nothing about, and cleverly omit things that are relevant.
And I will close with this - Carey, lighten up! Enough kids have suffered and the marjority of us here are trying to do something good - stop spewing such negativity, you're really starting to sound pathetic.
lynn:
Carey,
I have been reading your posts over the last few days with growing amazement. I have seen you attack, and viciously I might add, not only anyone with an opinion that differs from you-- but seemingly anyone who attempts to express ANY opinion at all.
You write off a careful, well-reasoned, thoughtful observation by saying the writer sounds "like a lawyer". This is not a bad thing when the subject under discussion is a legal issue. And the justification for your venom directed at those who are open enough to hope for a net gain in the crusade against BM facilities as a result of a "fictional" movie dealing with the subject? It would hurt courtroom credibility!!? Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. (Actually, I don't think you have made a case for it EITHER way...)
I feel sorry for you Carey. Everything must be either black or white-nothing in between- in that tight little insulated world in which you live.
But it offends me when you attack people such as Karen and others. It seems to me that she has made heroic effort to remove self-interest from her anti-WWASP efforts.
Lighten up with the "Ohmigod!!".
And by the way, what DID Tim Weiner have to say? My guess is you didn't reveal that because it didn't feed into your paranoid little fantasy.
Anonymous:
Carey, how is it okay to beat kids? It's not okay! As a loving parent and mother of 2, I find it sick with what you have to say. Go express your support of abuse somewhere else.
Not even your own message board likes you, doesnt that tell you something...
It would make one wondor if you didn't support Coldwater, there bringing the subject out and look at what your doing.
Maybe you should think about a different career, because your writing isnt getting you anywhere and your only perfection is supporting abuse.
As if you realy make any sense?
Your not even able to live up to yout lies, you never answer the questions because you have none.
You sound like your maybe 9 years old, we all can see how many posts you have made, and we can also see its you who should join the circus.
Get a life clown
Anonymous:
As evident by her own admission, Karen Z has a serious credibility problem. She also appears to be indifferent to the consequences of promoting a false sense of security about the safety and efficacy of the programs and schools listed on her website.
Second, there is a big difference between an explanation and an excuse. So far, Karen Z. has not come to the table with anything but one lame excuse after another.
::puke::
Carey:
WOW, all of Sue's puppets are out in full force.
You guys, I am sorry that I am upsetting you so very much. I know why. Because you know that a FICTIONAL movie is just that, fiction. And yes, the producers can gather a lot of people together and have them make statements, which will help him to sell his movie, but then these people will be endorcing the fiction he has created. Oh well, another person, just like Sue, who will profit off of the pain of others.
Yes Sue, I know that was from you. I know because you are the one who has talked to the attorneys. I also know that you have upset them. I have a copy of the letter that went out.
I don't need others, especially those associated with Sue Scheff, to take on my views and opinions to make me feel they are justified and/or right. I know they are right, just like I knew Dundee was wrong.
Oh by the way, Anon said "Carey, how is it okay to beat kids? It's not okay! As a loving parent and mother of 2, I find it sick with what you have to say. Go express your support of abuse somewhere else. "
Can you show me where I said it was ok to beat kids? I see why you believe in FICTION you create it, make it up, then you believe it.
Show me where in one post I have condoned abuse. You think because I don't support your beleif in a fictional film...it means I support abuse? Come on, get a grip.
No wonder you believe and buy into this FICTIONAL film, you are making things up yourself.
Not believing in the film to you Anon, means I believe in abuse according to your statement. How ignorant can you be?
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