Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Coldwater the Movie
Anonymous:
Carey, Your wrong. Realy though you are!
You have no idea of how much good Ryan has brought.
All of us victims already know he is the lead plaintiff in a class action law suit, his articles have gotton people out of these places.
Go ahead and make a clown out of yourself, people will be crying joy when they see Coldwater.
You dont have to put people down in order to feel good about yourself, Coldwater is going to save alot more kids then your hilarious comments.
Of course knowone is going to support you if you think you can justify or warrant abuse.
For all we know, your another one of wwwasps.
Its not okay to abuse kids carey, and come to think about it, if you realy didnt support Coldwater then you would be supporting abuse.
Anonymous:
Hey Anon, calling someone a child abuser because they are not 100% convinced about the credibility of the people involved in making this movie is beyond stupid. Far better to maintain a "let's wait and see" mentality before jumping to any conclusions that may prove embarassingly wrong.
:rofl:
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-07-23 11:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Where are all these successful graduates, anon????Do you have any basis for believing they exist, aside from Ken Kay's assurances that they do?
Antigen
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Hi Antigen:
I'm not talking about graduates who hang on to being in a WWASP program. Most have moved beyond being involved in the program or support groups and don't talk about the past. It's who they are now and what they are doing with their lives.
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Ok, so who the hell are they and what are they doing with their lives? Simple question. You've as much as stated that you're willing to risk harm being done to your own child at your request and in exchange for your money because you're so certain that there are a significant number of WWASP graduates who are doing so well. So, where the hell are they? Who are they? How do you know they exist?
--- Quote ---Ken Kay has no place in my observations, it's the grads and their families that have shown me the results. WWASP is not Straight or CEDU or Brown school, etc. The more I learn about the WWASP program through those that have been there, the more I agree with what they do.
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Wait a second, I'm confused. Just a paragraph ago, you said that all these proud, successful WWASP graduates just had gone on with their lives and have betther things to do than to hang around WWASP. Now you're hobknobbing with them at your weekly TOUGHLOVE hategroup rallies? Which is it?
WWASP is so remarkably like Straight, CEDU, Synanon, The Seed, Elan, SAFE, Pathways, Kids, KHK is tends to blow people away when they find out this shit is still going on.
But don't take my word for it, here it is straight from a fairly prominent horses ass.
Letter from Wm. Cavey
The following is a letter that we recently received from a "Proud Parent of a Straight Graduate".
http://trebach.org/letters/cavey/
I have it on fairly good authority that, when he wrote this letter, he hadn't had significant contact with the Straight graduate of whom he's so proud or with his grandkids, for a number of years. That's extremely common in Program families; most especially when the parents remain actively involved in the Program long after the kid has either gone into hiding or grown up and excised their whack job parents from their lives.
--- Quote ---I don't have a kid in the program. I have been researching for my thesis...both sides. I have also registered for the Discovery seminar as non program people are welcome to attend and it seems very similar to another personal growth seminar I'm familiar with.
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Which one, Resource Realizations? Purification Run Down?
--- Quote --- Hopefully this movie will address the seminars."
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So then, you're of the opinion that Coldwater is going to be pro-program? Well, if you can get yourself to believe that no kid has ever died in a WWASP program and the world is peopled with grateful, successful graduates, then I suppose you can make yourself believe anything.
We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.
-- Ben Franklin At the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.
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Anonymous:
"Of course knowone is going to support you if you think you can justify or warrant abuse.
For all we know, your another one of wwwasps.
Its not okay to abuse kids carey, and come to think about it, if you realy didnt support Coldwater then you would be supporting "
How has anything I have said imply that I condone abuse. Do you think that just because I do not agree with you and others that it means that I condone abuse. How STUPID can you be? My God, you are no different then they are with your "its my way or the highway" mentality. Ryan has the right to do what ever he wants the way he wants...but I don't have to agree with it. And just because I don't agree with it does not mean that I condone abuse.
I am not programed by you or WWASP. I will think independently whether you like it or not.
Quit feeling so threatned by my opinions. I am not asking you to take them as your own.
Grow up!
Carey:
The previous post was mine.
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