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Carey:
This sounds like the words of an attorney to me.
 
I believe right is right and wrong is wrong!  

I believe fact is fact and fiction is fiction!

I do not believe that the end justifies the means!

The way this movie has come about, is wrong!!!

The movie was planned before the story on Ryan and Casa by the Sea broke!

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2003-07-22 23:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I cannot overlook the fact that there are thousands of families that have been helped by what WWASP offers.
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I never hear these stories from graduates. That means a lot to me personally. "

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What do you hear from graduates? I've been hosting and posting to forums on abusive treatment for years now. In my experience, there's usually one or two graduates out of a few hundred who hang onto their cult status long after they've gotten over the threat of being sent back. For the most part, people who stay involved with these forums on some level for any amount of time are graduates. People who get out after a short time sometimes stop in, say hi, look for old friends, maybe tell their escape story then we don't hear from them again.

Where are all these successful graduates, anon????Do you have any basis for believing they exist, aside from Ken Kay's assurances that they do?

Antigen

anon:
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-17 09:18 ]

Antigen:
Carey, I don't understand exactly what you're upset about. Is it that someone might make money on the movie? (or might not, it's a very speculative business)

Is it that you only want media coverage if it's driven purely by altruism? I don't think it exists. Are you afraid it'll turn out to be a soft ball, fluff piece? Well, it might. We never know till we actually see it. But, based on the material I've seen so far, I just don't think that's the direction this project is taking.

And, FWIW, I hope they don't water down the cussing, the blood, the psychotic breaks or the jock itch. I hope they do an unflinching, no holds barred expose. I hope half the people walk out of the theatre shaking their heads saying "Man, what a load of crap! That can't happen." because I know there are some hundreds of thousands of us scattered around the country who can confirm from first-hand experience that it can and does happen every day.

Moreover, I hope they release it with a disclaimer like "Warning, this film may be triggering to certain individuals who have experienced large group behavior modification."


The internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.
--John Gilmour
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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American P.O.W. 10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous

Carey:
"All I can think to say is, So What?!! What, about any of this, assuming its so, is wrong? You really are not making much sense with your arguments."

Karen you ask what is wrong with this. I am not surprised that this does not make any sense to you.  The problem with this is that the pretense can be seen by outsiders as though everything happened in the way that it did in order to sell a movie.  In a court of law it will lessen the  creditiabilty of those invovled.   I don't see how anyone invovled in this project will be able to tell his or her story in a court of law and be deemed creditable.  Plus, I thinks it will hurt the creditabilty of those who are not invovled too.

[ This Message was edited by: Carey on 2003-07-23 08:54 ]

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