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is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« on: July 02, 2008, 09:12:08 PM »
If it's a "safe place", you can't have moderators posting people's personal information. The moderator of a "safe" forum should not be someone who threatens to release all the details of a program survivor's life and family, because they don't like them. Zenagent as a moderator of a forum that is designated safe, is comical.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 10:42:01 AM »
I don't think anyone's really worried about this.

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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 04:54:47 PM »
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If it's a "safe place", you can't have moderators posting people's personal information. The moderator of a "safe" forum should not be someone who threatens to release all the details of a program survivor's life and family, because they don't like them. Zenagent as a moderator of a forum that is designated safe, is comical.

And you're an idiot.  Only Zen's family details were posted, by you probably.  Go back to CAFETY.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 04:59:39 PM »
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If it's a "safe place", you can't have moderators posting people's personal information. The moderator of a "safe" forum should not be someone who threatens to release all the details of a program survivor's life and family, because they don't like them. Zenagent as a moderator of a forum that is designated safe, is comical.

Ban him altogether, since you seem to think you make all the decisions for everyone here.  If you can't ban him, then go fuck yourself, that would be comical.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 05:08:20 PM »
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If it's a "safe place", you can't have moderators posting people's personal information. The moderator of a "safe" forum should not be someone who threatens to release all the details of a program survivor's life and family, because they don't like them. Zenagent as a moderator of a forum that is designated safe, is comical.

It's perfectly safe to have him moderate the PV forum, unless you shill for PV.  I think that's your main issue, isn't it.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 06:28:52 PM »
Zen is cool, go home and find a "Safe" place where you can post crap and slander someone else, since you are so worried about safety how about NOT HERE.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 09:23:41 PM »
Its a very good idea. I approve this message.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 01:14:01 AM »
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Its a very good idea. I approve this message.

What happened to this guy? This guy has fallen off the Fornits map!
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 03:54:20 AM »
Didn't psy rig it so mods couldn't see personal info anymore?
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 07:42:57 PM »
No, but we try to only log in as admin for admin stuff, otherwise use the other usernames.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 08:15:36 PM »
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Didn't psy rig it so mods couldn't see personal info anymore?


Mods can't see IP info or anything like that.  It's been like that since we switched to SMF (@trolls: changed before Zen became a moderator)
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 08:41:14 PM »
ZenAgent never said he got ccm information from the IP. He said that ccm posted her name on fornits a while back, and that he got her location and other information from myspace. He even told her in a mocking kind of way, "be careful what you post on the internet" and basically laughing at her fear that her info was posted and ZenAgent was threatening to send cops to her house and release a background check. I remember this all very clearly, the discussion went on for several days and pages.

Someone keeps saying that ZenAgent's family was outed, it appears that is true. But ccm didn't do the posting, someone else did. So how are you getting back at the person who posted your family's info by outing a survivor that had nothing to do with it? It doesn't make any sense, but ZenAgent and his wife have been calling ccm names for a while, and think she is teamed up with TheWho or some conspiracy theory like this. I don't think ZenAgent is dangerous in being a moderator, because go look at his forum nobody is posting there. It was more of a character breach, he has showed how he treats survivors who say the wrong thing according to him. ZenAgent is a predator, and most posters here know this by now.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 08:51:32 PM »
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ZenAgent never said he got ccm information from the IP. He said that ccm posted her name on fornits a while back, and that he got her location and other information from myspace. He even told her in a mocking kind of way, "be careful what you post on the internet" and basically laughing at her fear that her info was posted and ZenAgent was threatening to send cops to her house and release a background check. I remember this all very clearly, the discussion went on for several days and pages.

Someone keeps saying that ZenAgent's family was outed, it appears that is true. But ccm didn't do the posting, someone else did. So how are you getting back at the person who posted your family's info by outing a survivor that had nothing to do with it? It doesn't make any sense, but ZenAgent and his wife have been calling ccm names for a while, and think she is teamed up with TheWho or some conspiracy theory like this. I don't think ZenAgent is dangerous in being a moderator, because go look at his forum nobody is posting there. It was more of a character breach, he has showed how he treats survivors who say the wrong thing according to him. ZenAgent is a predator, and most posters here know this by now.
Thank you for this enlightening post. Yes! Zen does have several hundreds of trolls working for him. He got dem working in SHIFTS!
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 08:55:22 PM »
Quote from: "ZenPredator"
ZenAgent never said he got ccm information from the IP. He said that ccm posted her name on fornits a while back, and that he got her location and other information from myspace. He even told her in a mocking kind of way, "be careful what you post on the internet" and basically laughing at her fear that her info was posted and ZenAgent was threatening to send cops to her house and release a background check. I remember this all very clearly, the discussion went on for several days and pages.

Someone keeps saying that ZenAgent's family was outed, it appears that is true. But ccm didn't do the posting, someone else did. So how are you getting back at the person who posted your family's info by outing a survivor that had nothing to do with it? It doesn't make any sense, but ZenAgent and his wife have been calling ccm names for a while, and think she is teamed up with TheWho or some conspiracy theory like this. I don't think ZenAgent is dangerous in being a moderator, because go look at his forum nobody is posting there. It was more of a character breach, he has showed how he treats survivors who say the wrong thing according to him. ZenAgent is a predator, and most posters here know this by now.

 mods could see lot's of info. Niles and Zen were always mocking ccm for what they saw in her PM/s. My feeling is zen got it personally, or from some other mod, from  these pm/s or her registration.

He really wasn't mod until after mod powers were changed? I think he was mod before the point when the ware was changed.
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Re: is it a good idea to have zen as moderator?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 08:55:23 PM »
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ZenAgent never said he got ccm information from the IP. He said that ccm posted her name on fornits a while back, and that he got her location and other information from myspace. He even told her in a mocking kind of way, "be careful what you post on the internet" and basically laughing at her fear that her info was posted and ZenAgent was threatening to send cops to her house and release a background check. I remember this all very clearly, the discussion went on for several days and pages.

Someone keeps saying that ZenAgent's family was outed, it appears that is true. But ccm didn't do the posting, someone else did. So how are you getting back at the person who posted your family's info by outing a survivor that had nothing to do with it? It doesn't make any sense, but ZenAgent and his wife have been calling ccm names for a while, and think she is teamed up with TheWho or some conspiracy theory like this. I don't think ZenAgent is dangerous in being a moderator, because go look at his forum nobody is posting there. It was more of a character breach, he has showed how he treats survivors who say the wrong thing according to him. ZenAgent is a predator, and most posters here know this by now.
Thank you for this enlightening post. Yes! Zen does have several hundreds of trolls working for him. He got dem working in SHIFTS!
You're reversing the burden of proof on Zen.  It's not up to him to bring evidence against himself.  As it stands, there is no evidence he did anything wrong (and i've looked into it).  If you have proof (which nobody has ever been able to present) that:...

A: Zen posted accurate information about CCM
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B: Zen obtained this information through an his position as a moderator (impossible since Zen never had access to IP address info, even if he did it would still require a subpoena.  PMs are inaccessable even to admins, and CCM's personal info was available to a google search (her fault))

... something might be done about it (such as removing his mod status). 

otherwise

SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
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