Ban TheWho?

[TheWho]

This thread and the who's legal ploys and attempts to derail, attack others, and basically be a dick is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Really, I say he should be banned and he calls me racist.

LOL. Good one.

Look Niles, if you didn’t want that side of you exposed here you shouldn’t have started the thread.  Anne confirmed your hate links/ porn and apparently you were called out for it.  You are the one attacking, man up and take responsibility for your posts.  You start a thread to try to get someone banned and then complain because they expose you as the racist that you are.

People are not just randomly called racist for no reason and I am not the only one who points this out.  I do admit that you have calmed down with the porn posting and shock pictures over the past month, so I give you credit for trying to clean up.  But don’t point fingers when you have that type of a past is all I'm saying.  Smarten up.



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[The Monsters]

no who, the reality of the situation is what reason would a person have to lie and want to destroy a place like this if they had not gone? Most people who don't even know what they are or never been could care less. Only people who have been effected by it or realize the atrocities these place commit would be so inclined to get involved.


and only the people who support this type of "treatment" are peple who stand to gain financialy or have been so mentaly twisted they actualy but truly believe this nonsense is real... which one are you?

On the terms of you constantly encouraging parents to send their children how fucking DARE you. we have seen them, we know you said it and we bloody saw that you openly think and claim that these places helped your kid and can do so for others.  If you look at any onf the kids from any program that "did well" they are just jack filled with moxie and willing to do seminars, videos, statements, and so forth. This is not a lie this is the balaitantly obvious fact that you choose to ignore when it is so clearly there.

This is not an issue of our honesty. Our integrity is not on the line. Perhaps the only thing we do that could be constrewed as "shady" would be that we remain annonymous and all sign under one name but that is for a very damn good reason that has already been explained. We have not lied, have have not spun any tall tale.


This industry only changes when someone realizes that the methods being used are killing people.

treatement ceneters of any kind have dark pasts surrounding them and they only change their tactics and practices when they are forced to.

[Anne Bonney]

  Anne confirmed your hate links/ porn and apparently you were called out for it. 

WTF?  I confirmed what?
Leave me out of your shit. 

[TheWho]

no who, the reality of the situation is what reason would a person have to lie and want to destroy a place like this if they had not gone? Most people who don't even know what they are or never been could care less. Only people who have been effected by it or realize the atrocities these place commit would be so inclined to get involved.

Maybe a troll?  I see them every day, monster.  Like I said you are new here, get down into the message boards and read a little bit

On the terms of you constantly encouraging parents to send their children how fucking DARE you. we have seen them, we know you said it and we bloody saw that you openly think and claim that these places helped your kid and can do so for others.

Hmmm,  I think I get to call you a liar now.  How about starting to produce all of these posts of me encouraging parents to send their kids off….  If you cant produce them then you are the liar my man.


 

If you look at any onf the kids from any program that "did well" they are just jack filled with moxie and willing to do seminars, videos, statements, and so forth. This is not a lie this is the balaitantly obvious fact that you choose to ignore when it is so clearly there.

Again you show your lack of experience.  I have seen many kids who have done well, moved on thru college and are doing great.  The problem is that you haven’t meet them… they don’t post here because they are not angry.. they have put it all behind them like a bad bump in the road.

This is not an issue of our honesty. Our integrity is not on the line. Perhaps the only thing we do that could be constrewed as "shady" would be that we remain annonymous and all sign under one name but that is for a very damn good reason that has already been explained. We have not lied, have have not spun any tall tale.

I can accept that… but you have lied tonight when you stated I constantly encourage parents to send their kids away…. You seem to be needing propaganda?

This industry only changes when someone realizes that the methods being used are killing people.

treatement ceneters of any kind have dark pasts surrounding them and they only change their tactics and practices when they are forced to.

Again you are generalizing.. some places stand still others are constantly improving you cant throw them all in one bucket.  As long as you maintain that mentality you will never accomplish anything here.

[The Monsters]

not YOU, WE said you are like them in the fact that YOU support them openly yet your daughter does not.

Thats not a lie thats an obvious fact

YES YOU DID/ HAVE SPOKEN TO PARENTS.

YOU EVEN ADMITED THAT PARENTS HAVE BEEING MESSAGING YOU AND ASKING YOU QUESTIONS.



You talk to parents and tell them how these places are not what we say they are and as a parent have more knowlege on the subject then we do... you are doing exactly as we suggested.

Trolls would be coming in here and trying to DISCREDIT what we say. A trolls purpose is to be as petulant and distubing as possible to the fourms intent... This forums intent is (weather you realize it or not) AGAINST the troubled teen industry. If it was in support your claim might have some validity but it does not so that statement is worth less then a bag of monopoly money.

[TheWho]

not YOU, WE said you are like them in the fact that YOU support them openly yet your daughter does not.
 Thats not a lie thats an obvious fact

My daughter doesn’t post here, yes that’s fact.

YES YOU DID/ HAVE SPOKEN TO PARENTS.

I speak to parents all the time.

YOU EVEN ADMITED THAT PARENTS HAVE BEEING MESSAGING YOU AND ASKING YOU QUESTIONS.

Yes they do

You talk to parents and tell them how these places are not what we say they are and as a parent have more knowlege on the subject then we do... you are doing exactly as we suggested.

I clarify questions that they have.. what does kidnapping mean?  Do all schools use restraints?  Are kids allowed to communicate with their families?  Why is there so much porn posted on this site?  Etc.

Trolls would be coming in here and trying to DISCREDIT what we say. A trolls purpose is to be as petulant and distubing as possible to the fourms intent... This forums intent is (weather you realize it or not) AGAINST the troubled teen industry. If it was in support your claim might have some validity but it does not so that statement is worth less then a bag of monopoly money.

Trolls disrupt any way they can, not just discredit, some do it for attention. 

On the terms of you constantly encouraging parents to send their children how fucking DARE you. we have seen them,….

Have you found any of these posts yet you claimed to have seen?  Many of us are curious to see how I encourage parents to send their kids away.



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[The Monsters]

YOU HAVE TOLD PEOPLE THAT WE ARE BIASED AND TO SPEAK TO YOU.

If you can't put the rest together who then we really shoukdent even be talking to you.

All of us are not attacking you because we like it. aere not against you because we have some strange agenda against you, we verbaly yell at you because you have proven time and time again that you cannot be trusted and your intrest is in the well being of RTC like "schools"

[dishdutyfugitive]

1. Maybe a troll?  I see them every day, monster.  Like I said you are new here, get down into the message boards and read a little bit


2. Again you show your lack of experience.  I have seen many kids who have done well, moved on thru college and are doing great.  The problem is that you haven’t meet them… they don’t post here because they are not angry.. they have put it all behind them like a bad bump in the road.


3. Again you are generalizing.. some places stand still others are constantly improving you cant throw them all in one bucket.  As long as you maintain that mentality you will never accomplish anything here.

1. Doesnt' matter that they are new. The monsters "GET IT". This ain't space camp.

2. It's 17 years later for me. I graduated as a model student. I graduated from a respected university. I didn't think about it for many years but now I see it for what it was.

An abusive cult.

You don't know or give a shit about what graduates think.

3. The industry threw us all in one bucket. The industry has it coming. The industry doesn't give a fuck about us now. The monsters are exactly what they are. The product of a fucked up program in a fucked up industry. There are no free lunches. The industry is has it coming. The industry is soley responsible for it's own demise.
And for every alleged 'good program' out there that doesn't address the evils of the industry and it's corrupt origngs - they are guilty by association. They are guilty of watching violent crimes being comitted just inches from their property line and not doing anything about it.
Your alleged 'good programs' use many of the same tactics, strategies, and cultspeak language.

[Anonymous]

"YOU EVEN ADMITED THAT PARENTS HAVE BEEING MESSAGING YOU AND ASKING YOU QUESTIONS. "

He's lying about that. No parent messages him. No parent emails him. He just wants other parents to think they do.

[The Monsters]

the point still stands. his intent is well received.

[TheWho]

YOU HAVE TOLD PEOPLE THAT WE ARE BIASED AND TO SPEAK TO YOU.

If you can't put the rest together who then we really shoukdent even be talking to you.

All of us are not attacking you because we like it. aere not against you because we have some strange agenda against you, we verbaly yell at you because you have proven time and time again that you cannot be trusted and your intrest is in the well being of RTC like "schools"

I have been called everything in the book from child abuser to industry shill because they listen to all the crap that is said or just make things up for the fun of it because I don’t agree with everything they say.

You have been making assumptions about me since you got here, without knowing me.  You hop on the band wagon and point your finger and condemn.. you listen to every juicy story (true or not) and accept them at face value (no questions asked )  until your hatred boils… now you say that I encourage parents to send their kids away…

I want you to prove it or admit that you are a liar.  Now that I know you are a liar it throws into question everything else you have been saying on this forum.  Where does the truth end and the lies begin with you “The Monsters”?  You have no credibility left.

Provide some links or testimony which supports your statement against me or retract your statement.


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[The Monsters]

who, we could have a photo of you teabagging a knocked out child and you STILL would deny it.


Nothing can be proven to you because in your mind you are always right and as such even evidence that does come up you discard.

This is no bandwagon, this in the consequence for your actions of flapping your gums without thinking and telling various people both parents and past RTC patients alike that they never went.

The only liar here is you Who. And even though you will never admit it and possibly never even come to terms with it. Thats just the way it is. You trying to convince us of what we know to be wrong is like what I refered to eariler. Trying to convince everyone that a pickle is a bicycle.

We dispise and hate what you do and say and yet we still voted for you to not be banned because to do so would not only tarnish what we have said about what you tell parents but also it would make us no better then you and in the end thats something we are not willing to comprimise ourselves for.

[dishdutyfugitive]

The monsters are credible.

They are the real deal.

Their truth begins and ends with calling bullshit on the cultfueled profit mill of child abuse.

You kick a dog so many times and it's going to turn on you. You should have learned that by age 10.

[Anne Bonney]

Note the period after Psy.  and note how many posts Psy. has vs. how many Psy has.