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NIU shooting
« on: February 18, 2008, 02:17:48 AM »
Yet another shooting where a kid was in a program (For "unruly" behavior) or was involved with taking dangerous psychiatric medication. In this case, both are true. Although, the media never seems to want to tell you the name of the psychiatric med. (I wonder if big pharma has anything to do with that); Program + psychiatric medications = double whammy. This kid never had a chance.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4300903&page=1

Has anyone heard of what anti-depressant the virginia tech shooter was on?  I am still waiting to hear the medication details that were promised to the public months ago.
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 03:21:02 PM »
psy was in a program and defends his use of psychiatric meds, that no doubt his parents pay for. is psy the next school&workplace shooter???
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 09:01:56 PM »
NOT IU.  It's Northern Illinois University.  IU is Indiana.
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 10:15:45 PM »
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psy was in a program and defends his use of psychiatric meds, that no doubt his parents pay for. is psy the next school&workplace shooter???

Why not ask such questions about the psychotic bitch Sue Scheff?
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2008, 12:17:32 PM »
It was Prozac.
Fifth paragraph from the end reads: "Baty said he saw a psychiatrist monthly but stopped taking Prozac a few weeks ago. She said the medicine "made him feel like a zombie."

_http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/799650,CST-NWS-NIU18.article
_ (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/7996 ... 18.article)

Ex: Campus killer called to say bye prior to shooting

NIU MASSACRE | Says he was a 'worrier' who spent time in a group home
February 18, 2008
BY _RUMMANA HUSSAIN_ (mailto:[email protected]) , _LISA DONOVAN_
(mailto:[email protected]) AND MITCH DUDEK Staff Reporters

Hours before he walked into a Northern Illinois University lecture hall and
inexplicably started a shooting rampage that ended five lives and his own,
Steve Kazmierczak called one of the people he was closest to and said what would be a final goodbye.

That's what the gunman's girlfriend of two years, Jessica Baty, recalled
Sunday in an interview with CNN.
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Jessica Baty, girlfriend of Steve Kazmierczak (inset), stands outside her
parents' Wonder Lake home on Sunday. She said on CNN that the last time she spoke to Kazmierczak, he "told me not to forget about him" and then he said "Goodbye, Jessica." Baty said in the interview she "thought that was strange" because her boyfriend of two years never said 'goodbye, Jessica' but rather 'see you later Jessie.'
(Chris Sweda, Sun-Times/Courtesy

"He called me at midnight and told me not to forget about him," she told CNN.

Then Kazmierczak told her, "Goodbye, Jessica," Baty said in the interview.
"He never said, 'Goodbye, Jessica,' he always said, you know, 'See you later, Jessie.' I just thought that was strange."

The two University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign graduate students,
described by CNN as having an on-again, off-again relationship, lived together in a Champaign apartment. That's where, she said, Kazmierczak kept two guns locked up -- apparently for protection, said CNN.com.

Baty says he didn't do or say anything in his last days or even during their
last conversation early St. Valentine's Day that provided any clues about
what would unfold hours later, according to the CNN report.

Baty said she thought authorities had "the wrong person" when her boyfriend was fingered. She added, "He's not in DeKalb."

But, in fact, he had returned to his and Baty's graduate school alma mater, the NIU campus in DeKalb.

Just after 3 p.m. Thursday, Kazmierczak -- clad in black and carrying a
guitar case with a shotgun inside along with three guns tucked into a belt -- burst into Cole Hall as a geology lecture was winding down.

He opened fire, and by the time it was over, five people were dead and 20 were wounded. Kazmierczak then shot himself to death on the lecture hall stage.

Baty says that's not the 27-year-old Steve Kazmierczak she knew.

Wearing an orange University of Illinois sweat shirt, Baty briefly stepped
out from her mother's home in Wonder Lake, Ill., about 70 miles northwest of Chicago, to address reporters there.

"You're presenting him like a monster, and he wasn't," said Baty, before
retreating indoors.

Her family put a sign in the yard saying, "Our thoughts, prayers go out to
all the victims of the NIU incident. Please respect our privacy as we need to grieve and mourn this tragic loss of so many lives."

Stopped taking Prozac

In an emotional interview on CNN, in which Baty wiped tears from her eyes -- a peace ring visible on one of her fingers -- she said she was baffled about Kazmierczak's actions.

"He was anything but a monster. He was probably the nicest, most caring
person ever."

She went on to say "he was a worrier" and that Kazmierczak told her he had "obsessive-compulsive tendencies" and that his parents committed him as a teen to a group home because he was "unruly" and used to cut himself.

Baty said he saw a psychiatrist monthly but stopped taking Prozac a few
weeks ago. She said the medicine "made him feel like a zombie."

But Baty said that recently he was "a little quicker to get annoyed."

"He wasn't erratic," she said. "He wasn't delusional."

Since the shooting, she has received several packages, apparently from
Kazmierczak, including a textbook about serial killers, a gun holster and
ammunition, items that puzzled her. She said she also received a "goodbye" note.

The note included: "You are the best Jessica! You've done so much for me, and I truly do love you."

Contributing: Frank Main
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 02:05:08 PM »
Quote from: "guest"
psy was in a program and defends his use of psychiatric meds, that no doubt his parents pay for. is psy the next school&workplace shooter???

After proofreading your imbecilic posts, I guess a school shooter is the least of your worries.  I'm sure you don't have to worry about a workplace shooter, either - how likely is someone to stick a pistol through the glory hole?
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 07:40:56 PM »
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2BCHILDREN

if you're not interested in the whole documentary, skip ahead to 1:05:25
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 11:47:30 PM »
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After proofreading your imbecilic posts, I guess a school shooter is the least of your worries.  I'm sure you don't have to worry about a workplace shooter, either - how likely is someone to stick a pistol through the glory hole?

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: IU shooting
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 01:05:43 AM »
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NOT IU.  It's Northern Illinois University.  IU is Indiana.

My bad. Thanks, I went back and changed the title.
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