Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Benchmark Young Adult School / Benchmark Transitions
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psy:
--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---Psy, you are much more tied into Benchmark and the background on “Georgeâ€
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Ursus:
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--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---I like the term "criminal negligence" and I find it utterly appropriate. In fact, I think it puts Benchmark's treatment of George in an even worse light than one in which they merely "didn't help enough" or "didn't know." They knew, and they as much as pushed him over the edge.
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Well. There is the possibility that the vast majority of them don't know and just have a really fucked up concept (they learn) of how to go about "helping" people. My only question is whether the bunch on top are true believers. I'm pretty sure the low-on-totem-pole staff are just cult members like any other. Afaik, none of them have any background in psychology and hence, no concept of what therapy is. All the easier to convince them that the Benchmark way is best way. By the time they figure it out... well... Benchmark has an extremely high staff turnover rate.
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Hmmm. Guess I wasn't really thinking about individuals on staff. I was thinking more along the lines of the culpability of the institution as a whole. There is an important difference. Of course, there are individuals within an institution like this who may have had additional culpability in a situation like this, but it is primarily the institution who should be held accountable. George's parents did not contract out his care to particular individuals at Benchmark, they signed a contract with Benchmark.
It is when particular individuals go beyond the pale that they get tacked onto a case like this as additional parties. But the primary responsible party would still be Benchmark.
It is Benchmark's responsibility to keep the excesses of their staff in check. It is Benchmark's responsibility to properly screen their clientele so that these kinds of fatalities do not occur.
--- Quote from: ""psy"" ---Here are the facts: George was already suicidal. He was clinically diagnosed as bipolar...
Yup. He was clearly a danger to himself and he wanted to get help. He didn't. Instead, he was yelled at, berated, and browbeaten until he could no longer stand it and killed himself (according to multiple eye witness accounts). He should have gotten legitimate therapy, he should have felt accepted and loved. He didn't. Benchmark advertised to be able to help him and it was criminally irresponsible (IMO) for them to accept him in the condition he was already in.
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Your quote above is why I said , "They knew, and they as much as pushed him over the edge."
As a bit of an aside, why do you think people have to sign a waiver stating that they don't have any psychological problems prior to taking the Landmark Forum? Too many lawsuits stemming from people having their craniums reamed by the excesses of est, and the consequences thereof? Mmm?
dishdutyfugitive:
It's not benchmarks responsibility to be responsible.
Their job is to:
collect checks
Hire derelicts.
dodge bullets when real people call bullshit.
Be thankful you're not a Benchmark employee.
How could you sleep at night?
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""dishdutyfugitive"" ---Have you ever read a local or metropolitian newspaper? It sounds like you haven't. No one ever places an obit and makes reference to suicide.
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I missed this on my first read. This is what I have experienced also, DDF. If a family member loses a child to suicide there is typically no mention of it in the news papers. Families treat it a little different, as did the families I knew. The only reason I brought this up is because there are some people who didn’t understand why the programs did not go public with the details of a child’s death if it was one in which they took their own life. Many here accused the schools of being too secretive about children’s deaths (others accused the schools of covering it up) when it is actually the parents of the child who don’t want the story published in the paper (in many cases), so the school respects their wishes.
When my daughter was attending ASR there was a recent graduate who took his own life and the school asked permission to make their letter public (The letter the boys parents wrote to ASR). The parents asked for discretion but stated that the letter could be read within the school to students and faculty/parents. I was present when the letter to the other students was read to them.
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dishdutyfugitive:
Welcome to the Revolution.
The revolution will not be televised.
KFNT
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