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Ursus:
Some discussion on the threads from April of this year:

'Ultimate Irony: Program Sues for Civil Rights Violation'
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21323[/list]
'Can anyone give some insight?'
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=16367[/list]

Apparently John Baisden was still doing business under the banner of Glacier Mountain Educational Services in Cocolalla, Idaho in early 2002 when he ran into some problems with local officials for "operating without a conditional use permit," not to mention having his foster care license revoked, as well as facing charges of false advertising and failure to report a crime. Similar complaints were filed around the same time against his former cohort Larry Bauer and Glacier Mountain Academy, namely that of "operating a school without a conditional use permit."

In December of 2003, John Baisden's enterprise was called Turning Winds/Family Solutions Network, Inc. and he was now based in Hayden, Idaho. He or another member of his family "purchased all of the Ryan Kohler's EMS sites under the name of Family Help 411, Inc.."

Turning Winds/fsni was still located in Hayden, Idaho in January of 2005, but relocated to Troy, Montana in the wake of the hitchhiker incident (no specific address can be found on their website).

http://www.turningwinds.com/
http://www.fsni.org/

Turning Winds is under a small umbrella called Family Solutions Network. The two other projects that FSN has underway are "College Bound" (for 18-24 yos) and "Recreational Motion" (beats me, but it's coming soon).

I may be reading this wrong, but it would appear that -- according to their website -- escorts are required for transporting kids to Turning Winds.

Ursus:
FWIW, it appears as though the Illinois coordinator for HEAL attended Turning Winds:

"HEAL is coordinated by survivors across the country. Our national/HQ/Seattle Coordinator is a survivor of Provo Canyon School (me, Angela). Our CA Coordinator is also a survivor of Provo Canyon School. Our NJ Coordinator is a survivor of Three Springs and SLS Health (a program for adults). Our IL Coordinator is a survivor of Turning Winds. Our NY Coordinator is a survivor of 2 Aspen Ed. Group Programs, and our MS Coordinator is a survivor of Bethel Boys Academy. We understand what the problem is and how to go about changing the laws and helping kids."
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=274971#274971[/list]

lorrispickelmire:
I am the Idaho HEAL coordinator, and I was in a Roloff Home.

lorrispickelmire:
Here is an even better example of their abuse.  Several of the women who were dorm mothers made you say "Thank You Mama" between swats.

Ursus:
John Baisden of Turning Winds recently posted a comment on an essay by Lon Woodbury of StrugglingTeens.  The essay was essentially Lon's negative reaction to George Miller's GAO hearings on industry regulation this past October.  That is, Lon Woodbury does not think the industry needs to be regulated.


--- Quote ---November 27, 2007

This is a great article! Thank you very much for always providing such great insight. This was a very informative article, and I hope everyone in listening. It is very apparent that now more than ever, today's children are in serious trouble and are in need of good effective treatment. Thank you for keeping us up to date.

Best Regards,

John Baisden
Senior Executive Vice President
Turning Winds Academic Institute
PO Box 768
Troy, MT 59935
800-845-1380
www.turningwinds.com
--- End quote ---


Link to ORIGINAL ARTICLE on StrugglingTeens (including comments section).
Link to THREAD ON FORNITS discussing same.

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