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« on: November 27, 2007, 02:35:32 PM »
This is from a post in the "Troubled Teen Industry" thread. Seeing a flowchart of CEDU insanity made my jaw drop.

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 04:19:37 PM »
Thanks. This is the diagram that was published in the Sept. Mother Jones Magazine in a long article focused on use of electric shocks to control behavior (at Rotenberg, if I'm not mistaken).

The diagram shows CEDU as closed in 2005. Seems to be a widespread misunderstanding--so many people don't realize that schools like Boulder Creek Academy, Northwest and Ascent are still operating, just under new ownership but with most of the same staff, and definitely with total isolation of at least one of the kids: my niece.

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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 04:29:44 PM »
Auntie Em:

Who is the driving force behind the decision to warehouse your niece? Brother, sister....

Does anyone in the family understand your perspective?
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 05:31:12 PM »
Her parents. They were justifiably concerned about her, she was acting out and her grades plummeted, but she had not been in trouble with the law or been hospitalized for mental illness, that sort of thing. The parents are total Koolaid drinkers, i.e., totally brainwashed by BCA. They will not hear one word of even a question about the situation. They stopped communicating with us more than a year ago. They only speak regularly with the girl's nana. She, like other family members, believe what they are told. They don't want to believe anything bad could be happening. Really; they can't put their heads around it. Family history has been rewritten; now it's said that "she was always a handful." I ask them to describe a time when they saw her being out of control, and they can't name a time --or they point to some tantrum she had when she was 8. It's unreal.

I've shared a mountain of research with them--reports from, and interviews with, respected experts in mental health, education, child development, law. I send them links to this site, to ISAC (http://http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp), to A START (http://http://astart.fmhi.usf.edu/). My ever-increasing level of alarm seems only to erode my credibility. They think the widespread reports of abuse and death in the programs are in other programs, "bad" programs, the boot camps--"Why, it just it can't be that way at BCA. After all, her father says she's happy and doing well." And, gosh, visits for family members are (always) just over the horizon--but not now. "Don't you care about her emotional growth?"

No one other than her parents--not even her siblings--has seen or spoken with her in almost 2 years. Many/most of the survivors who post here talk about home visits after 6 months--which is an eternity--but here I am with no contact for 2 years, and I'm just so very, very worried about her. Now I suspect they are grooming the parents for her to go to one of the post-high-school programs, like Innercept (http://http://www.innercept.net/).

There are a few family members who understand, but we don't have influence where it counts: her parents. We are ready to be there for her in whatever way she needs when she gets out.

That's my sad story, Anon.

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 06:19:29 PM »
Have you tried contacting the school to let them know you want to speak with her?
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 06:26:58 PM »
Yes. Can't even get anybody at the school to return a message, and they reported the calls to her parents, who promptly threatened us with legal action.

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 06:30:06 PM »
Her parents threatened legal action against you?
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 02:40:36 AM »
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Her parents threatened legal action against you?



One of the primary objectives of a cult is to break up the family unit. As such, the cult becomes the new family, the only family.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 09:04:06 AM »
Yes--hard to get into details here. Also indirectly threatened retribution against the nana. Told us that but for our disprespectful, untrusting behavior we would be packing for Idaho now. (Well not now now;  nobody can go there now--because of the girl's bad behavior, of course. Don't you care about her emotional growth?)

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 12:44:13 PM »
Well. Isn't that pleasant. Nothing like good old fashioned multi-generational dysfunctional family drama.  I especially enjoy it during the holidays!

That's really a shame. I'm sorry to hear that.

What a bunch of whack-jobs. If caroline told me I couldn't talk to my uncle and told me my uncle was a jackass I'd put sugar in her gas tank.

Wait - what am I talking about? She basically did tell me I couldn't talk to anyone but my parents for 6-8 months and then limited calls to siblings/grandparents after 12 months.

You should send an adult friend of yours go to her school under the guise of a campus tour and have him give her a letter.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2007, 08:00:16 PM »
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Wait - what am I talking about? She basically did tell me I couldn't talk to anyone but my parents for 6-8 months and then limited calls to siblings/grandparents after 12 months.


Caroline was in charge of your privileges even after Voyageurs? Were you one of her favorites?


Because let me tell you, I am thankful as hell I wasn't. Richard was my family head in voyageurs, and once I got up into Discovery, I became Stacy's "project." So for the most part, i dodged the Caroline bullet and was only her chew toy when I was an RMANK.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2007, 08:14:25 PM »
no - was overgeneralizing in the name of brevity. I should have said Mel.
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