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« Reply #135 on: November 28, 2007, 08:18:46 PM »
Maybe they'll find it therapeutic. Being forced into a face down position then being drugged up? Good Golly, who wouldn't?
It should be in the PV video...
"what do you feel was the most beneficial part of your therapy at PV?"
"Well, I think that being forced to the floor by five large apes really proved to be a therapeutic experience for me. If I wasn't given those chemical restraints...I might be DEAD."
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« Reply #136 on: November 28, 2007, 08:24:15 PM »
Quote from: "".""
Maybe they'll find it therapeutic. Being forced into a face down position then being drugged up? Good Golly, who wouldn't?
It should be in the PV video...
"what do you feel was the most beneficial part of your therapy at PV?"
"Well, I think that being forced to the floor by five large apes really proved to be a therapeutic experience for me. If I wasn't given those chemical restraints...I might be DEAD."


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #137 on: November 28, 2007, 08:40:13 PM »
PV Video; The Uncut Version
*touching music*
"They don't have to worry about who's calling on their cell phones, they don't have to worry about their latest e-mail because not only do we restrict their communication and scan their mail, but they're tied to beds for hours at a time."
"Then, instead of looking at the world, they're looking at a tiled ceiling while tied to a bed."
"They learn to practice respect and tolerance for others while being encouraged to confront and manipulate their peers"
"AAU, a safe, 24 hour secured home where one person's journey becomes a team members because they're lumped into the same group; Troubled Teen"

...I can see it now.
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« Reply #138 on: November 28, 2007, 10:00:42 PM »
Well, I went thru the month of September 2004, 9 physical restraints and 6 physical restraints which turned over to mechanical restraints using the body net.  this is from the time between 9/3/04 and 9/27/04

the mechanicals lasted
9:07 AM till 3:20 PM
9:40 AM to 3:50 PM
1:55PM to 10PM
2:15 PM to 4:15 PM
4:40 PM to 9PM
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« Reply #139 on: November 28, 2007, 10:03:45 PM »
The longest physical restraint in September 2004 was 8:41 AM till 11:25 AM... thats a long time for all those monkeys to be sitting on you
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« Reply #140 on: November 28, 2007, 11:29:29 PM »
Quote from: ""SettleForNothingLess""
The longest physical restraint in September 2004 was 8:41 AM till 11:25 AM... thats a long time for all those monkeys to be sitting on you


Shit.. I think in the some states it is actually illegal to restrain someone continously for that long.
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« Reply #141 on: November 29, 2007, 09:49:07 AM »
i would think it should be... they should be outlawed all together.
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« Reply #142 on: November 29, 2007, 09:51:14 AM »
LARGE avatars should also be outlawed.
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« Reply #143 on: November 29, 2007, 09:53:41 AM »
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LARGE avatars should also be outlawed.

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« Reply #144 on: November 29, 2007, 09:56:31 AM »
TheWho believes in duct tape.
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« Reply #145 on: November 29, 2007, 11:08:20 AM »
there i fixed it.. happy now!? lol
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« Reply #146 on: November 29, 2007, 02:36:35 PM »
Zen agent said


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Thanks for posting that, I've been asking for professional opinions on the use of antipsychotics in a restraint. Since settle is not and was not diagnosed as a psychotic, the AP dosages were high and using them as a restraint was damned improper and dangerous, and if properly investigated could cause serious trouble for the people who signed off on the restraint.

That's from an MD.


It's not unusual, per se, to use AP's as chemical restraints. & just an FYI, you don't need to be diagnosed as having aform of psychosis in order to warrant the chemical restraint.

& there is a difference between a chemical restraint and an IM injection for use in an acute crisis. (ie, someone with a knife to their throat, on the ledge of a window) - the difference is the short-acting nature of an IM injection - that's why it's a short acting AP (geodon, zyprexa) and benadryl.

The unusual thing in settle's case is the use of 2 long-acting AP's and benadryl over a prolonged period of time, continuously.

It doesn't make sense to use that kind of restraint, that often - which would imply that indeed settle had a psychosis. To which we know she doesn't. So, you can conclude she was being over-medicated in a very punitive way.
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« Reply #147 on: November 29, 2007, 05:55:17 PM »
Peninsula Healthcare employees, staff, and others rendering care are authorized to use whatever measures may be
reasonably necessary to protect the welfare of the patient and others, to prevent injury or damage, and to prevent patient from leaving
Peninsula Healthcare without proper notice or discharge. Such measures may include the appropriate and humane use of restraints.

humane? ha.

Throughout the course of treatment, patients may
communicate freely with their parents
or legal guardians
by mail and during their weekly Family Therapy sessions.


wow, you'd never know.

Be protected from the use of excessive medication. Medication
shall not be used for punishment, discipline, or staff
convenience.


Be free from any physical punishment or any type of physical
abuse.
We are committed to the safety and well-being of our patients
and we do not, in any way, condone or permit use of physical
punishment or any type of physical abuse.
If a patient feels they have been inappropriately punished or abused in any
way, they should immediately submit their complaint to staff
in writing on a 3x5 card.

anyone given any 3x5 cards here?




Rediculous.
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« Reply #148 on: November 29, 2007, 05:57:12 PM »
1. The commitment of Peninsula Village is to prevent, reduce, and strive to eliminate the use of seclusion and mechanical restraint.
Our goal is to prevent emergencies that have the potential to lead to the use of seclusion or mechanical restraint whenever possible
and we strive to raise awareness among staff about how seclusion or mechanical restraint might be experienced by the patient.


forgot this one. Interesting, huh?
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« Reply #149 on: December 01, 2007, 07:46:20 PM »
http://www.thejournalnews.com/rtc/27part7.htm

Manufacturers push their psychotropics

(This is part of a Journal News report on the widespread use of drugs at residential treatment centers. The story was reported and written by staff writers Jorge Fitz-Gibbon and Dwight R. Worley. Links to other parts of the article can be found at the end of this section. )

At the heart of the debate over psychotropic drug use in children is the pharmaceutical industry, a $250 billion business that Fortune magazine called the world's most profitable in its 2000 review of corporate earnings. Fortune listed two psychotropic drugs manufactured by Eli Lilly among the top-selling "blockbuster" drugs: Prozac, with $2.7 billion in sales, and Zyprexa, with $1.9 billion.

Marketing has been instrumental in bolstering sales. Advocacy groups like the Child and Adolescent Bipolar Foundation, which promote bipolar awareness, education and treatment, are funded in large part by pharmaceutical manufacturers. Four of the group's top five corporate donors are drug makers.

Since 1997, pharmaceutical companies have also been allowed to advertise directly to consumers, a rarity in the developed world.

The pharmaceutical consulting and marketing firm IMS Health reported that drug manufacturers spent $19 billion in advertising last year alone.

Pharmaceutical companies are also active lobbyists in Washington, with well over 600 registered lobbyists — more than the oil industry. Mitch Daniels, director of President Bush's Office of Management and Budget, is a former Eli Lilly vice president.

Drug makers made $26.5 million in campaign contributions in 2000, up from $3.1 million a decade earlier, according to the campaign finance watchdog group Open Secrets.

Critics have charged that pharmaceutical influence has seeped into the medical profession as well. Dr. Loren Mosher, clinical professor of psychiatry at the University of California, is one of the leading critics.

In 1998, he resigned his membership in the American Psychiatric Association, charging that the association "reflects and reinforces, in word and deed, our drug-dependent society."

"The problem is, psychiatry all depends on grants and contracts," Mosher said. "The big ones, the ones who are doing research, depend a lot on grants from the pharmaceutical companies for staying in business, so to speak. So it's really pervasive. It's all over the place. You can't get away from it."

In 1999, Eli Lilly stopped making annual contributions of $25,000 to The Hastings Center in Garrison, a medical ethics think tank, after it published an article by Dr. David Healey, a noted psychiatrist.

Healey had been an expert witness against Lilly in court and did a study at the University of Wales that found healthy adults became belligerent, fearful and suicidal when using Prozac.

For its part, the pharmaceutical industry rebuts criticism of its influence. Jeff Trewhitt, spokesman for the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America, or PHARMA, the national trade association for the industry, said drug makers simply produce the medications. They don't prescribe them.

"We have, at great expense, researched, developed and produced these medicines," he said. "There are medicines that are helping a large number of patients, and we certainly make sure that doctors have information about these medicines. It's up to them to make a basic, fundamental decision as to whether or not to use it.

"It strikes us that the system is working very well, and we would be a lot worse off without these medicines."

Drug companies, including Eli Lilly, refer doctors to outside literature or reports on using the medications on children, including the antipsychotic Zyprexa, one of the company's newer products. Marni Lemons, an Eli Lilly spokeswoman, said Zyprexa is not marketed for children.

At St. Agatha Home, Small insists that the days of the hard sell, when companies lavished expensive gifts and trips on doctors, are over.

Yet, he concedes that pharmaceutical representatives still visit about three times a week. A small purple clock with a white Zyprexa logo sits on his desk — a gift from a pharmaceutical representative.

Yes, Small said, Zyprexa is used, both on some of the retarded adults in his care as well as in the children.

Most RTCs use it as well, primarily for diagnoses of schizophrenia and acute mania. For critics, that is a troubling fact.

"It's a very suppressive drug," said Breggin, the director of the International Center for the Study of Psychology and Psychiatry. "This drug is like putting cement in the brain of a child."



A good series...
http://www.thejournalnews.com/rtc/index1.htm
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