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Offline SettleForNothingLess

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« on: November 22, 2007, 12:41:04 AM »
Well I have been counting thru my restraint logs.. so far 98 restraints in less than a 6 month period... BASTARDS....
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2007, 12:47:41 AM »
restrained for what and which gulag?
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2007, 12:59:59 AM »
Properly for moving away from bed without permission.

Peninsula Village

Look at this video

PV Video

If those teenagers move off their bed without approval, they will have 6-8 staffmembers on the top of them within minutes and if they don't learn the rules fast enough, they will also be given new clothes.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2007, 04:38:58 AM »
::puke::

Thanks dude you just fucked up my day with that video, kill PV!  :flame:

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 08:08:58 AM »
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::puke::

Thanks dude you just fucked up my day with that video, kill PV!  :flame:

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hell ya may they burn in hell.... god 98... holy shiiiiiat
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 09:58:51 AM »
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Well I have been counting thru my restraint logs.. so far 98 restraints in less than a 6 month period... BASTARDS....



I am truly very sorry for you. Witnessing my child in one improper PV restraint was the worst thing I have ever seen. It is still not easy going about day to day with that vision (and her agonizing screams) embedded in my subconscious.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 12:48:59 PM »
HOly fuck...

The latest in Posey Fall Fashions just freaked me the fuck out.
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Re: [b]Excessive Restraints at Peninsula Village[/b]
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2007, 11:16:46 AM »
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Quote from: ""SettleForNothingLess""
Well I have been counting thru my restraint logs.. so far 98 restraints in less than a 6 month period... BASTARDS....


I am truly very sorry for you. Witnessing my child in one improper PV restraint was the worst thing I have ever seen. It is still not easy going about day to day with that vision (and her agonizing screams) embedded in my subconscious.


PV restrained you 98 times? I have read through some of these threads and a lot of posters say PV doesn't use TCI. On the PV website they have two counselors who they say are instructers of TCI.
We were terrified when there was a restraint and we were not allowed to look at restraints when they happened.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2007, 03:20:40 PM »
Lols. they claim they do USE TCI, but never have I ever practiced TCI with 6 to 8 staffers. Most I ever had to use was myself and another and the restraints were over 3 to 5 minutes after they started.

The one time it went longer a program director told us to get off the kid and he snatched him off the ground with one hand by the shirt and marched him off and made him sit down on the front porch of the office.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2007, 03:20:55 PM »
Lols. they claim they do USE TCI, but never have I ever practiced TCI with 6 to 8 staffers. Most I ever had to use was myself and another and the restraints were over 3 to 5 minutes after they started.

The one time it went longer a program director told us to get off the kid and he snatched him off the ground with one hand by the shirt and marched him off and made him sit down on the front porch of the office.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2007, 05:56:35 PM »
Quote from: ""SettleForNothingLess""
Well I have been counting thru my restraint logs.. so far 98 restraints in less than a 6 month period... BASTARDS....



That is awfully strange and I think many parents will find it hard to believe.  These are designed for extreme measures and you claim they used this on almost a daily basis on a young girl?   My daughter kept a journal but I never heard of the kids keeping a restraint log before.  All the restraints that you say you had result in one every other day for 6 months.  I have seen the Posey… how were you able to eat, go to classes, the bathroom or write in your journal during those days you were in the posey?

Just curious.



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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2007, 06:54:55 PM »
The restraint log is that kept by the facility.. she had to get a lawyer to force PV to hand over all her records.. and then pay them 350 bucks for them..

And 98? Shit girl.. Weak.. you weren't trying hard enough.. I had a kid who racked up nearly that many in 1 month.
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2007, 07:20:42 PM »
Whootie, didn't we have a discussion recently about questioning program survivors' "claims", as you call them?  The program Settle was in, Peninsula Village, gives a handbook to parents that instructs them to disbelieve their children if they claim they're being physically abused, or one of their peers is a "psycho", it's an attempt to manipulate the parent.  As Che Gookin mentioned, these are Settle's records from Peninsula, they documented the shit.  Kids at PV aren't allowed to journal, don't assume kids in other programs had the same privileges your daughter did at ASR

What do we know about PV?

 
    1. They do overuse physical restraint and improper TCI's.  As Che Gookin pointed out, a TCI should take at most two people, not a gang-assault and pile-up on a kid who's face-down.  Face-down restraints are the most dangerous kind.

    2.  The child's peer could well be dangerous and unstable, I won't use "psycho" since no one under eighteen can be diagnosed as a psychopath.  Despite PV's claims to not accept violent/sexual offenders, they admitted Andrew Klepper, convicted as an adult in MD for plotting to lure a female escort to his home with the con they were going to make a porn film.  When the woman arrived, Klepper assaulted the woman and sodomized her with a baseball bat and a Magic Marker while his friends watched.  After he finished, Klepper robbed the woman and threatened her with more harm if she reported the crime.  His "punishment" was Peninsula Village.  Dominic Hawranke was convicted as an adult in Charlottesville VA of conspiracy to commit murder and conspiracy to use an explosive device to blow up a school.  Hawranke had boasted about the plot on friends' MySpace blogs.  On one of the other conspirator's blogs, Hawranke wrote:
“IM SOOOO [expletive] READY FOR THIS [expletive] DAY TO COME DUDE [expletive] ALL THIS [expletive] AROUND US [expletive] IT TO HELL."  He was sent to Peninsula Village after seven months in Juvie.
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So what is PV - a therapeutic program for emotionally troubled youth, kids suffering from depression, anorexia, addiction, cutting, or is it a detention unit for violent youth?  PV's both, because they all get thrown into the same milieu, cutters with sodomizers, anorexics with homicidal kids.  No separation, and PV uses "peer-on-peer" confrontation which is disturbing considering the mix of kids.  Aggressive, violent youths already convicted of enticing others into criminal conspiracy are going to see they get rewarded for calling group (snitching) on other patients and prey on the weaker kids like hyenas.
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A PV counselor\'s description of his job:

\"I\'m there to handle kids that are psychotic, suicidal, homicidal, or have commited felonies. Oh yeah, I am also there to take them down when they are rowdy so the nurse can give them the booty juice.\"

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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2007, 08:16:38 PM »
. Were there any restraints that were not written up?
What were some of the typical reasons that they put on the form to justify the restraint?
On the days that you were restrained did you also attend school? If not how many days of the school year were lost?
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2007, 08:19:39 PM »
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Whootie, didn't we have a discussion recently about questioning program survivors' "claims", as you call them?.....
Yes,  I remember the discussion… you must have missed the posters here not believing a parents story and calling him/her a troll… it should work both ways… but I am still open minded regardless… so I guess it is okay to question all posters and that is all I am doing.

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…..don't assume kids in other programs had the same privileges your daughter did at ASR

Finally………….,  I have been fighting a mentality here on fornits for years stating that all programs are alike.  Its good to hear some posters are finally admitting there is a difference other than the color paint on the doors.  I accept that, Zen, maybe PV is more abusive than most !!  Maybe they restrain kids every day, but this doesn’t happen in other places.

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…… because they all get thrown into the same milieu, cutters with sodomizers, anorexics with homicidal kids.


Dispels the other belief and assumptions that there isn’t anything wrong with any of the kids who go to these places.  I have read people posting here who claim the kids don’t need any help or were on their way to a great life until their parents pulled them away and sent them to a TBS for no reason.



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