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Staff Replacements at Aspen
Anonymous:
Which one doesn't? Let me take a look through the Aspen site to see which one doesn't do that...
Nope! Not seeing any ones that don't here. Looks like they're all hellholes.
Thanks for playing.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Which one doesn't? Let me take a look through the Aspen site to see which one doesn't do that...
Nope! Not seeing any ones that don't here. Looks like they're all hellholes.
Thanks for playing.
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I think the point that was trying to be made was exactly that. We shouldnt tell parents to rely on web sites (parody or not). They should visit the schools and determine for themselves if it is a good fit for their family. They shouldnt listen solely to kids here on fornits or programmies but should choose for themselves by visiting.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Which one doesn't? Let me take a look through the Aspen site to see which one doesn't do that...
Nope! Not seeing any ones that don't here. Looks like they're all hellholes.
Thanks for playing.
--- End quote ---
I think the point that was trying to be made was exactly that. We shouldnt tell parents to rely on web sites (parody or not). They should visit the schools and determine for themselves if it is a good fit for their family. They shouldnt listen solely to kids here on fornits or programmies but should choose for themselves by visiting.
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Yeah, parents should go to the facility and talk with with the brainwashed kids who would be in fear of talking negative about the facility in fear of some abuse and reprisal from staff (extending the term of their stay, setting them back, cutting off the limited communications with parents). Get the high pressure sales tactics (being told that their kid is going to die if they don't put them in their program).
I think this is an excellent idea. It sounds like something a pro-program shill would say.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---This is why many are not convinced that there are any systemic problems with abuse in the industry. The schools are staffed with people who are dedicating their careers and lives to helping children, whether they are degreed or are in the process of getting their degree. Many staff members move on after a few years to go back to school to further their education, private practice, further training and if they had witnessed any abuse or systemic problems these would have been reported.
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Highly unlikely. Ex staff don't report what they see. They aren't willing to be blackballed if they wish to continue working in the Industry/MH field. Word travels. They also want to avoid slap suits and loss of severence pay,etc.
Dedicated to helping children is a very relative term. Randal Hinton and too many others to mention, consider abuse to be help/treatment. One person sees caning as abuse, another sees it as appropriate discipline.
The absolute truth is that parents can't determine a strangers values in an interview or visit. That's why, if they choose to place their kids, they shouldn't allow contact to be severed under any circumstances. Their child is the only person who can report what goes on behind closed doors.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---This is why many are not convinced that there are any systemic problems with abuse in the industry. The schools are staffed with people who are dedicating their careers and lives to helping children, whether they are degreed or are in the process of getting their degree. Many staff members move on after a few years to go back to school to further their education, private practice, further training and if they had witnessed any abuse or systemic problems these would have been reported.
--- End quote ---
Highly unlikely. Ex staff don't report what they see. They aren't willing to be blackballed if they wish to continue working in the Industry/MH field. Word travels. They also want to avoid slap suits and loss of severence pay,etc.
Dedicated to helping children is a very relative term. Randal Hinton and too many others to mention, consider abuse to be help/treatment. One person sees caning as abuse, another sees it as appropriate discipline.
The absolute truth is that parents can't determine a strangers values in an interview or visit. That's why, if they choose to place their kids, they shouldn't allow contact to be severed under any circumstances. Their child is the only person who can report what goes on behind closed doors.
--- End quote ---
Exactly!!! When you're buying a product you here what the manufacturer of the product has to say, then you go to Epinions and see what people's actual experience with the product is.
Neglecting to speak with those who had unpleasant experiences, those willing to risk slap suits in order to tell the truth about a program, would be a gross oversight. It could cost them a lot in the long run- financially and in terms of their child's mental health and well being.
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