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« on: November 04, 2007, 07:57:23 PM »
and so they die. this is the reason why the loved one's can put them in treatment. if you want to see what its like for people without loved ones go check your local skid row.

working to change programs for the better is fine. but suggesting that all drug treatment and alcoholics anonymous is evil is just absurd. only people who have been addicts understand.

when you let yourself die before asking for help. there has to be a way to help these people. yes even if they are teens since they can find drugs just as easily and get addicted like adults too.

i am anti-abusive-program, but i don't believe you need to throw the baby out with the bath water. i pray you never experience life threatening drug or alcohol addiction in your life.

even those in treatment or program unnecessarily can aknolwedge there were some there who needed help. look at it from the big picture. the world is not all about you and your experience, however bad it was.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2007, 08:00:40 PM »
Thank you for your post.
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Re: drug addicts don't want to get clean
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2007, 08:10:55 PM »
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and so they die. this is the reason why the loved one's can put them in treatment. if you want to see what its like for people without loved ones go check your local skid row.

working to change programs for the better is fine. but suggesting that all drug treatment and alcoholics anonymous is evil is just absurd. only people who have been addicts understand.

when you let yourself die before asking for help. there has to be a way to help these people. yes even if they are teens since they can find drugs just as easily and get addicted like adults too.

i am anti-abusive-program, but i don't believe you need to throw the baby out with the bath water. i pray you never experience life threatening drug or alcohol addiction in your life.

even those in treatment or program unnecessarily can aknolwedge there were some there who needed help. look at it from the big picture. the world is not all about you and your experience, however bad it was.


amen,  people are you listening?
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2007, 08:16:17 PM »
when you let yourself die before asking for help? what? there is help if someone chooses to get it. if they dont want help and want to die let them! they should be free to make that choice. just dont hurt anyone else on your way out!
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2007, 08:23:13 PM »
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when you let yourself die before asking for help? what? there is help if someone chooses to get it. if they dont want help and want to die let them! they should be free to make that choice. just dont hurt anyone else on your way out!


agreed, but parents care about thier kids and will do anything to avoid them taking their own life.  That is what makes many of these schools so  attractive is that there are virtually no suicides.  So as a minimum the parents know their kids will be kept safe for a short time while they figure things out.

Good point.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 08:27:27 PM »
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just dont hurt anyone else on your way out!


Translation: Let the loser die if they can't control their addiction. I've never been addicted to drugs, but since I was sent to a wilderness program I feel I have the right to judge everyone else.

Welcome to fornits. This is the type of mean-spirited statement that underpins the ideology of many fornits posters. They want to let people addicted to drugs die and feel no responsibility to help them. I don't know how they sleep at night.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 08:36:25 PM »
No, they don't simply want use of drugs to be used to justify torture and brainwashing, dumb ass.

Not everyone who uses drugs is abusing it, needs treatment, or is in any way in danger.

I go weeks without having a beer but I'm the son of an "alcoholic" and everyone is fucking certain alcoholism is genetic.  :roll:

And considering how many people use Marijuana without any ill effects... well, yeah.

Fornits isn't against people who need help getting it. We're against calling torture help and forcing it on those who don't, or those who need it - so that those who need it can get real help.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2007, 08:40:23 PM »
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NI'm the son of an "alcoholic"


Stop trying to paint yourself as a victim, Niles, it's unbecoming of a man. Drug treatment is not torture. If you'd been to drug treatment, or ever been tortured for real, you would know that.

Run along boy, and go post your porn or whatever it is you do, adults are trying to have a discussion here.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2007, 08:41:54 PM »
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Not everyone who uses drugs is abusing it, needs treatment, or is in any way in danger.


No one said we were talking about everyone, just thoses that need help, not everyone is in a program seeking help.  Why do you continue to evade and cop out on conversations.  Why be black and white?  Some kids need help and others do not.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2007, 08:42:34 PM »
Porn? ok.



But I'm talking a bout ethical treatment of problems vs "Straight INC" treatment of drug suspicion. There is a huge difference.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2007, 08:48:31 PM »
It's uncanny how much the actual programmies sound like the traditional trolls.

Let me guess, your intake just get raped by the GAO news and you want to vent at the people stealing your precious cashflow?

Line's at the end of the block.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2007, 08:53:29 PM »
The porn is seeping in, He is losing the conversation and is on the verge of posting his animals and pornography.  My bet is he starts with the Jewish hate sites and then starts posting his hatred toward minorities and starts posting the "N" word followed by the howling  gorilla.
Although he is known to just skip right to the gorilla and porn.

I think we should back off and not challenge his intellect.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2007, 09:18:45 PM »
These places have a high suicide rate, a high attempted suicide rate, and a sky-high post suicide rate, when the mental damaged torture victim takes their own life BECASUE of what's been done to them, and the destruction that abuse has created in their lives, and mental processes. My guess is that as many as a third kids coming out of these places commit suicide.

How many would that be, in total?
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2007, 09:21:52 PM »
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These places have a high suicide rate, a high attempted suicide rate, and a sky-high post suicide rate, when the mental damaged torture victim takes their own life BECASUE of what's been done to them, and the destruction that abuse has created in their lives, and mental processes. My guess is that as many as a third kids coming out of these places commit suicide.

How many would that be, in total?


Your guess is wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2007, 09:28:17 PM »
one third of the kids I kept in touch with killed themesleves. I talk to other survivors, and a hell of alot of them end up dead prematurely..about one third, by either direct suicide, or suicidal-style living.

What makes you think my guess is wrong? Is it those peer reviewed, clinical obs, your child murdering industry, after 40 years, has still never gotten around to making that validate yourself?

The ONLY studies made on your monster industry have proven that you either cause damage, or have no benefit on the children you abduct and torture.

You do benefit your wallets, though
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