Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
Sumner Hawley
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---think Urs just posted that an alum told him personally of 1. the other 1 was posted by anon on the Honer thred and was th other one he mentioned?
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Well it is a story told to Ursus. Ursus retells the story.
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Sounds like Ursus told the story while informing that the story was told. So why all the flames? You guys not getting enough pussy?
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If that were all there would be no argument. Ursus changed it from consensual sex between adults to homosexual child buggery. Do a handful of dexys and reread his posts.
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I've read the posts. Be more specific and back up your claims. So far I've seen nothing to support those claims. Your own posts, though, contain porn links, call a lot of anons ursus and make vague hostile allegations.
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There is nothing vague or hostile about it. FWIW Ursus does the same thing to Mike
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You're right, Che. Ursus never slandered anyone. Just a lot of anons with Ursus's same grudges against Sumner writing in Ursus's same style, all alleging homosexual pedophilia. We're all nuts. Ursus is sane. And Hyde is having a good laugh.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---think Urs just posted that an alum told him personally of 1. the other 1 was posted by anon on the Honer thred and was th other one he mentioned?
--- End quote ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Well it is a story told to Ursus. Ursus retells the story.
--- End quote ---
Sounds like Ursus told the story while informing that the story was told. So why all the flames? You guys not getting enough pussy?
--- End quote ---
If that were all there would be no argument. Ursus changed it from consensual sex between adults to homosexual child buggery. Do a handful of dexys and reread his posts.
--- End quote ---
I've read the posts. Be more specific and back up your claims. So far I've seen nothing to support those claims. Your own posts, though, contain porn links, call a lot of anons ursus and make vague hostile allegations.
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There is nothing vague or hostile about it. FWIW Ursus does the same thing to Mike
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You're right, Che. Ursus never slandered anyone. Just a lot of anons with Ursus's same grudges against Sumner writing in Ursus's same style, all alleging homosexual pedophilia. We're all nuts. Ursus is sane. And Hyde is having a good laugh.
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Hyde is baffling and cunning disease. That is why we need to put principles before personalities in our efforts at recovery. When we seek to blame individual players for our disease it is the disease talking, trying to rationalize and alibi the sickness deep in our souls. We try to justify our time at Hyde, instead of taking responsibility. We need to accept, let go and seek our true unique potential.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---Be more specific and back up your claims. I don't have time to listen to whiners.
How do YOU know someone else didn't post those? Coming from people who only post as anons, why would I even listen to this shit?
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Thanks for helping us reach our unique potential, Che. You've raised the level of discourse to an all-time high. You come back and moderate for us often.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---Be more specific and back up your claims. I don't have time to listen to whiners.
How do YOU know someone else didn't post those? Coming from people who only post as anons, why would I even listen to this shit?
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Thanks for helping us reach our unique potential, Che. You've raised the level of discourse to an all-time high. You come back and moderate for us often.
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I think all of you are missing the point. The complaint is that Hyde stands behind staff who they know are inappropriate with students. We know for a fact that Dubinsky diddled at least one student. The docs are on the internet and the Mother came to this board to confirm. Where there is smoke there is fire and it is evident from Hyde's handling of the Dubinsky case that there are probably many more incidences like this that are undocumented. I do not know Sumner Hawley but Ursus has said that a student did report to him that Sumner had been inappropriate.
In my correspondence with Ursus he has always been honest and upfront other than not wanting to give his name. I don't believe he would make this up. It is obvious that Ursus has deep wounds caused by Hyde. Somebody at Hyde inflicted some kind of pain on him that has stayed with him for years. This is not something to make fun of or throw names. the man is in pain guys! Name calling on this site is not going to help get the word out about the danger at Hyde. Please lets try to keep this website clean and informative. If you want to insult each other, why don't you PM each other and then get in touch.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---Be more specific and back up your claims. I don't have time to listen to whiners.
How do YOU know someone else didn't post those? Coming from people who only post as anons, why would I even listen to this shit?
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Thanks for helping us reach our unique potential, Che. You've raised the level of discourse to an all-time high. You come back and moderate for us often.
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I think all of you are missing the point. The complaint is that Hyde stands behind staff who they know are inappropriate with students. We know for a fact that Dubinsky diddled at least one student. The docs are on the internet and the Mother came to this board to confirm. Where there is smoke there is fire and it is evident from Hyde's handling of the Dubinsky case that there are probably many more incidences like this that are undocumented. I do not know Sumner Hawley but Ursus has said that a student did report to him that Sumner had been inappropriate.
In my correspondence with Ursus he has always been honest and upfront other than not wanting to give his name. I don't believe he would make this up. It is obvious that Ursus has deep wounds caused by Hyde. Somebody at Hyde inflicted some kind of pain on him that has stayed with him for years. This is not something to make fun of or throw names. the man is in pain guys! Name calling on this site is not going to help get the word out about the danger at Hyde. Please lets try to keep this website clean and informative. If you want to insult each other, why don't you PM each other and then get in touch.
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