Fornits is a joke!

[TheWho]

In growing any business or keeping it successful (which includes databases).  I think one of the keys is having everyone feel comfortable that the site they are posting in is secure.  With the whole identity theft problem going on people don’t want to enter into sites they are not familiar with let along log in and give out their email and other information.

When peoples’ posts are being tampered with here,  some here may feel it is funny, but look at it thru the eyes of someone new and not familiar with site security.  I think it is importation to get as many different sides and point of views as possible posting onto fornits.  

Kids are more likely to be risk takers and sign in no matter what, because they don’t have as much to lose.

Parents and staff have more to risk:  They have their jobs and kids to think of and tend to be more cautious.

If you look at the majority of posters I would say we have more younger people, kids that attended various schools than we do staff and parents (older people).

So in order to balance the scales we need to provide an environment where they feel comfortable to post and exchange information, ideas, get help etc.

So its not just a matter of how many people where exposed or who, but how secure of an environment we create.



TheWho...

[TheWho]

What is the significance of the puppy dog foot?  I have heard other  people say that before here.

I know a rabbits foot is for good luck.

[Ursus]

In growing any business or keeping it successful (which includes databases).  I think one of the keys is having everyone feel comfortable that the site they are posting in is secure.  With the whole identity theft problem going on people don’t want to enter into sites they are not familiar with let along log in and give out their email and other information.

When peoples’ posts are being tampered with here,  some here may feel it is funny, but look at it thru the eyes of someone new and not familiar with site security.  I think it is importation to get as many different sides and point of views as possible posting onto fornits.  

Kids are more likely to be risk takers and sign in no matter what, because they don’t have as much to lose.

Parents and staff have more to risk:  They have their jobs and kids to think of and tend to be more cautious.

If you look at the majority of posters I would say we have more younger people, kids that attended various schools than we do staff and parents (older people).

So in order to balance the scales we need to provide an environment where they feel comfortable to post and exchange information, ideas, get help etc.

So its not just a matter of how many people where exposed or who, but how secure of an environment we create.



TheWho...

Oh my GAWD... You don't even need a friggin' name to register here, and the site tolerates proxies like you wouldn't believe...

Plus, this business has been around for 'bout 40 years or so, and some of those earlier survivors are older than some of the so-called parents here.  Now, those people have potentially lots to lose, being survivors and parents, some with sensitive jobs blah blah blah...

Go back and memorize Deborah's post.  Exactly WHAT are you on your high horse about?  Nobody knows your name, your IP was never posted, and the same could be said about your email 'cept that you just posted it earlier this morning.

[TheWho]

Plus, this business has been around for 'bout 40 years or so, and some of those earlier survivors are older than some of the so-called parents here. Now, those people have potentially lots to lose, being survivors and parents, some with sensitive jobs blah blah blah...

Good point!!  Most of the posters just seem to be younger, in my opinion, by the way they communicate or maybe because they are talking about their time in some of these schools or wilderness I assume they are talking about recent events.

I do tend to agree that the older you are the more one has to lose.

[Anonymous]

Many here (the daily posters) are use to the flame wars and trying to expose each others identity (photos, location), language, porn posting, in fighting etc.…

TheWho...

...Or reveal the true motivation of some posters.  Look for those who stand to profit the most.   Some posters want to derail productive discussions to ensure investments, or compile a risk report for investors looking to buy a dead-on-it's feet program's assets to start a new hellhole.  It's not nearly as simple as you make it sound, Who, there are far more nefarious types lurking here than simple porn posters and flamers.

[TheWho]

Many here (the daily posters) are use to the flame wars and trying to expose each others identity (photos, location), language, porn posting, in fighting etc.…

TheWho...

...Or reveal the true motivation of some posters.  Look for those who stand to profit the most.   Some posters want to derail productive discussions to ensure investments, or compile a risk report for investors looking to buy a dead-on-it's feet program's assets to start a new hellhole.  It's not nearly as simple as you make it sound, Who, there are far more nefarious types lurking here than simple porn posters and flamers.

I haven’t seen many discussions that appeared to be derailed on purpose, other than say Niles (as a sign in person, maybe a guy named luke, a few others) and guests who appear to be just having a good time or trolling.  A lot of late night derailing due to excessive substance usage.  Many accuse me of derailing threads constantly and I have never consciously done this and have fought to keep people focused on the topic.
But as you have stated there are probably many types lurking in the background collecting  information for their personal/financial gain, but I never had a sense that any of them interact or post.  At least that I am aware of.

I think if there is a problem with productive discussions getting derailed like say TB thread, it could be moved to an area that is heavily moderated like TSW has for semi-private discussions.




TheWho...

[TheWho]

I meant to say the PV thread (Peninsula Village) thread.... (Not TB thread)

[Anonymous]

Fuck off, Who... apparently you're the only one having problems with that, if it's even true. And if it were, who really gives a fuck since you try to bullshit people here all the fucking time. It's about time you shut the fuck up. No one cares what happens to you on here! Die!

Well said.

[CCM girl 1989]

Fuck off, Who... apparently you're the only one having problems with that, if it's even true. And if it were, who really gives a fuck since you try to bullshit people here all the fucking time. It's about time you shut the fuck up. No one cares what happens to you on here! Die!

Well said.

You all are only interested in people who have had negative experiences in programs. You can't stand to hear anything but negative stuff. Now, you've blown your credibility up all night whacking off to your computers, and changing peoples posts thinking it's so funny, when it's not.

[Anonymous]

That's not quite it, CCM. Are you really as dumb as that blonde avatar of yours looks? TheWho attempts to distort facts. I think you do this too. You deny being or being involved with ed-cons... I think you're full of shit. What are doing here? Why are you sooooo concerned with "your side" of "the truth" being heard? I have to wonder if there's something in it for you.

[CCM girl 1989]

It's all about the truth baby! I get nothing but a headache from it all though. But, I believe it's important for parents to know the truth. And to definately not believe the majority of things that are posted here. Especially now that I have had personal experiences with my posts being altered, and deleted.

[CCM girl 1989]

That's not quite it, CCM. Are you really as dumb as that blonde avatar of yours looks? TheWho attempts to distort facts. I think you do this too. You deny being or being involved with ed-cons... I think you're full of shit. What are doing here? Why are you sooooo concerned with "your side" of "the truth" being heard? I have to wonder if there's something in it for you.

BTW, start naming names of these ed-cons I am involved with?

[Anonymous]

That's not quite it, CCM. Are you really as dumb as that blonde avatar of yours looks? TheWho attempts to distort facts. I think you do this too. You deny being or being involved with ed-cons... I think you're full of shit. What are doing here? Why are you sooooo concerned with "your side" of "the truth" being heard? I have to wonder if there's something in it for you.

BTW, start naming names of these ed-cons I am involved with?

Fuck if I know, maybe you should tell me?

[Anonymous]

But, I believe it's important for parents to know the truth. And to definately not believe the majority of things that are posted here.

Like what things, for instance?

All ears.....

[Anonymous]

Now, I am sure this will be deleted. But, somebody is in this system, and is changing peoples posts, and names. They even keep deleting my posts. This is a sad day folks. :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:

I heard what's going on here and it's astounding, even for fornits.

This site seems to be infamous for all kinds of antics that I find ethically smarmy.  

I was reporting years ago that my posts were being altered.   Not to mention the documented outing of posters where were told, in the site contract, that they were able to post anonymously.  

In my case the publishing of a phone number and map to my house.

It kind of gives me hope, though, to see what is happening here.  As if evil actually will self-destruct  on its own, over the course of time.

And maybe the high ground would be to just look away from this melt-down process.  

But after everything I've been through because of this site I do admit to a certain level of glee at the shape I see it in now.   A place at which I'd never have posted at all if there had been honest disclosure that posters would be outed at the whim of some slob on the inside of the operation.