Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Benchmark Young Adult School / Benchmark Transitions
In Lieu of Therapists, Benchmark Opts for "Coaches"
Oz girl:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---If you read the original post you will see that this thread is built on a misconception. There is no intention on the part of Benchmark to replace Therapists with coaches. What Benchmark has done is taken their existing employee base and sent them out for training.
They sent their primary counselors out for training and also their resident counselors. There was no replacement of personnel done. Corporations typically send their employees out for training, 40 hours typically being a good intensive course.
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Once again you missed the point. Benchmark were calling ppl without adequate training therapists. This was illegal as they did not have enough qualification. So they gave them a fancy new title to make their unprofessional tactics legal. It is like money laundering with ppl
Ursus:
To summarize:
THE MISCONCEPTION:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---There is no intention on the part of Benchmark to replace Therapists with coaches. What Benchmark has done is taken their existing employee base and sent them out for training.
They sent their primary counselors out for training and also their resident counselors. There was no replacement of personnel done.
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THE REBUTTAL, aka CLARIFICATION:
--- Quote from: ""Lain the Odd"" ---That implies that they had any accredited therapists to switch out in the first place.
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--- Quote from: ""psy"" ---This is simply an attempt to ignore licensing requirements for "counselors" as the heat starts to build.
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--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---Coaching is the new name for "providing therapy at a cheaper rate and with no responsibility whatsoever for what might happen to the client down the road in time."
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--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" --- Benchmark were calling ppl without adequate training therapists. This was illegal as they did not have enough qualification. So they gave them a fancy new title to make their unprofessional tactics legal. It is like money laundering with ppl
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TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---If you read the original post you will see that this thread is built on a misconception. There is no intention on the part of Benchmark to replace Therapists with coaches. What Benchmark has done is taken their existing employee base and sent them out for training.
They sent their primary counselors out for training and also their resident counselors. There was no replacement of personnel done. Corporations typically send their employees out for training, 40 hours typically being a good intensive course.
...
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Once again you missed the point. Benchmark were calling ppl without adequate training therapists. This was illegal as they did not have enough qualification. So they gave them a fancy new title to make their unprofessional tactics legal. It is like money laundering with ppl
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So they were calling people without adequate training "Therapists" and then sending them out for training and renaming them "Coaches"? Is there someplace where it says this? I haven’t read that on this thread.
In the report they mentioned they were sending "Primaryâ€
Nihilanthic:
psy:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---
--- Quote from: ""psy"" ---
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---If you read the original post you will see that this thread is built on a misconception. There is no intention on the part of Benchmark to replace Therapists with coaches. What Benchmark has done is taken their existing employee base and sent them out for
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cult indoctrination.
Oh wow.. a 36 hour marathon workshop and a certificate from people who worked for CEDU and openly thank Mel Wasserman as a source of their inspiration... I'm sure their coulselors.... er... i mean "coaches" are now far more confident in their ability to "help" people... Whether they actually learned anything useful is another story entirely...
This is simply an attempt to ignore licensing requirements for "counselors" as the heat starts to build.
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I am not arguing on how effective the training is because I am not familiar with it. But it was stated that the coaches were going to replace therapists and this is inaccurate information.
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You're right. They only state that they have therapists to prospective parents. On their website they used to claim they were "counselors" so if you want to split hairs that it would be "benchmark replaces 'counselors' with 'coaches"
--- Quote ---All the existing staff is being trained... many training courses typically are 40 hours.
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Yes... in things other than medicine/psychology, like flipping burgers. There's a reason why it takes a very long time to get a PHD, Doctorate, or any type of qualification to be able to practice psychology or counseling. Practicing medicine without a license is dangerous... Now that they're not called "counselors" any more you're probably going to tell me that somehow this is safer...
--- Quote ---Any longer and it would not be cost effective to have staff out that long.
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Well.. why not hire staff that ALREADY HAVE DEGREES rather than giving them "on the job" training. This isn't McDonalds.
--- Quote ---Any shorter and it becomes LGAT type training which many people do not like. So the 40 hours is a good balance.....
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40 hours is about the length of a good LGAT, but it depends.
Riddle me this: what were they trained in? What exactly did they learn? Other than making grandiose claims of what "Next Step" can do, I don't see any specific examples of what exactly is taught...
Is this "coaching comporable to psychology"... When I interviewed Jayne Longnecker she told me psychologists were "in their heads"... Given that there is an actual science behind psychology, there is accountability, requirements to practice, etc... I don't see what it is that makes this "coaching" in any degree equivalent.. I see it as reckless.
A recent testimony on Benchmark's newsletter (a "success story") by Laura Ballou stated
--- Quote ---“I’ve been in my head for a
long time,â€
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