Obviously you haven't done much research. Most of Spring Creek Lodge and other wwasp programmes are filled with kids dumped their by their parents till they are 18 to avoid having to pay high boarding school tutions or they can use their insurance benifits.
Well Wookie - this is about the biggest crock of shit you've ever dumped out. The programs are all Way more costly than private school tuition. And I have yet to hear of an insurance company paying for any of these shit hole programs! Hells Bells - its dam near impossible to get an Insurance company to pay for legitimate and appropriate treatment, once you are dealing with substance abuse; learning disorders, or mental health issues.
Funny this turn you've taken. You used to be a voice of moderation with regard to the Parent situation. You often said it was important to reach out to the parents and that attacking them unreasonably was counter productive. Its one of the few things you and I agreed on.
OZ Girl is the voice of reason on this issue - and I hope her POV will be given serious consideration by anyone reading these threads.
As you know - I feel strongly brain washing is a very real factor. I feel it is important to understand this. It is what it is. Its not why parents turn to these programs, as Oz Girl explains so well. But it is why they find themselves more devoted to the program than their own children and families, once they begin attending the seminars and or parent group meetings.
I "saw" the change occur, over and over, in the months I was on the BBS. Perfectly average moms and dads, who had real concern for their kids, and not a few questions about the apparent problems in the program ( educational and crowding and diet - no one knew anything at all about OP or what restraint actually was) turn into mindless parrots as they attended the seminars; with an increasing callousness toward their child, and an increasing willingness to cut off and shun anyone who didn't support the program.
They are *changed*. They feel this change is a great thing. It matters not if in reality their lives fall apart. They abandon life long ideas about ethics and morality and faith, and accept ideas and values totally forgine to their own - and they don't even realize it.
That is a result of cultic indoctrination: Brain Washing.
It is so powerful and effective that they are not able to realize the program could in any way be a failure. When their children do come home - and they are much worse than before; or they cut them out of their lives as hated enemies never to be trusted or even spoken to - they will still insist the program was a success.
When their child takes that exit plan, and they then shun them - and the son or daughter goes on to meet many accomplishments any parent would find joy and satisfaction in - they will still insist they return to the fukken program and graduate!
I mean, it is nuts. And yet, for these seminar junkie parents, it is normal.
They are brain washed.
Now - I am not saying what they do is "OK" - that this is an excuse. I am saying it is the reason they are so strange and irrational with regard to their children and the program.
I would hope that pointing this out to them might help them begin the process of "waking up". Hopefully, before to much damage is done.
I would also hope it might help some of the kids realize why their parents have become cold, callous bitches and bastards. It might help them heal, if they understand their parents were deceived, and literally fukked in the head.
About the Zero tolerance factor - the more I think about it, the more I feel this is worth focusing on. We really should formulate a reasonable substance abuse policy and promote it with every elected official we possibly can.
Shall we talk about what might be reasonable?
